Europe 2008

Inusagi said:
It says:
The European Rubik's Cube Championship is open to competitors from all countries of all ages.
All competitors can win prizes, but for each event only the best competitors from Europe and Israel are eligible for the official European Championship medals.
Competing at the European Championship is free. All competitors receive a gift pack.

Then why does it say All competitors can win? And also it says, open to all countries of all ages..
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"All competitors can win prizes"
 
Well Ron confirmed it, it's open for everyone... why would it be an European Championships, I'll just call it the European Open.

Atleast my mom can compete at the EC Open. :)

Inusagi ever heard of Erik akkersdijk and Bikshu 'from' Holland with the 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 cube?
Offcourse there are also Adam Polkowski and Piotr Kózka being 2nd and 3rd in the whole world with the 4x4x4 cube average, respectively and the Polish cubers also have Tomasz Zolnowski with the 5x5x5.
Poland also has Konrad Stawski for the 3x3x3 blindfolded event.
These are just the turbo cubers from Poland and I am not even talking about their 2x2x2, Pyraminx and Square-1 solvers. Denmark has a very awesome magic 'twister', Germany ''two'' crazy multiple blindfolded solvers.
There are more awesome European cubers offcourse, but I don't have the time now.

If American and Canadian cubers would also join in they could make it even harder for the Japanese team to take ''all'' prizes.
 
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Yes, true.

Joel will stay the last European Champion, and who can proud to be it.
Now the European champion will finish 4th at the European championnships.

We should call that "Bilbao Open".
 
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Doudou said:
Now the European champion will finish 4th at the European championnships.
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I was thinking exactly the same.

It's not that I don't like the fact that non-European country's can compete (even better I'd love to meet new people), I don't complain that fast, but it's THE European Championships we are talking about.

1: ''Hey I just became European Champion last weekend''
2: ''Wow you finished first!?''
1: ''I finished 5th in the finals being the best European cuber''

The podium is an important thing for me and now the one who is on the podium may not even be European.
I don't care if we Europeans get our butts kicked, but again I tell you ''it's the European Championships''.
 
Simboubou said:
If they let everyone compete, they should just call it "World Championship", and the matter will be resolved.
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I would like the US Open to be called the "World Championship," too. And I'll make sure that any Stanford competitions will also be called "World Championships" from now on. :rolleyes:

Just because you allow everyone to compete doesn't mean it's the Worlds...
 
Rama said:
Doudou said:
Now the European champion will finish 4th at the European championnships.
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I was thinking exactly the same.

It's not that I don't like the fact that non-European country's can compete (even better I'd love to meet new people), I don't complain that fast, but it's THE European Championships we are talking about.

1: ''Hey I just became European Champion last weekend''
2: ''Wow you finished first!?''
1: ''I finished 5th in the finals being the best European cuber''

The podium is an important thing for me and now the one who is on the podium may not even be European.
I don't care if we Europeans get our butts kicked, but again I tell you ''it's the European Championships''.
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Totally agree with my brother there.

I like the fact of a European Open, but now the purpose of the EC is gone. I don't have anything against a European Open I really like it... but I think the European Championship should be as it was! Why not make 2 tournaments instead of copying everything from how the US guys are doing things?
How can you be European Champion if you might end 10th, only get a medal and get few glory from press and people because Yu Nakajima won with 2 new WR's?
It's a bit strange to me that out of nowhere this was decided before checking the opinion of the European cubers...
 
1: ''Hey I just became European Champion last weekend''
2: ''Wow you finished first!?''
1: ''I was not in the final...''

Very funny ...
 
i'm very happy with this decision, and i have had many conversations with people who disagree.

i think that the only thing that is affected is 'podium ego' and if you're the fastest euro cuber, it won't change because anyone else shows up. no one remembers that macky won the 2004 us champs, just that jon morris was us champion.

every competition should be open for everyone, everywhere, every time. anything else is elitist bs. i don't personally have a problem with anyone, and i'm sorry this decision disappoints so many, but it's a good one in my opinion.
 
Lucas Garron said:
Doudou said:
1: ''Hey I just became European Champion last weekend''
2: ''Wow you finished first!?''
1: ''I was not in the final...''

Very funny ...
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How about increasing the number of people in the final to accommodate at least 3 Europeans in each event?
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Looooooooooooool... I never heard something so strange/dumb.
Come on, it is not possible. And why 3 ?
It has no sense.
 
Lucas Garron said:
Doudou said:
1: ''Hey I just became European Champion last weekend''
2: ''Wow you finished first!?''
1: ''I was not in the final...''

Very funny ...
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How about increasing the number of people in the final to accommodate at least 3 Europeans in each event?
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how about it's fair and who does best goes on...top place euro competitor gets the title
 
The winner of the EC is always the European Champion. You can't translate this to the best European Cuber in competition, it's 2 different things. And that's where I think the core of the discussion lies.

The best Euro cuber is always decided by who wins the EC, if it's not then you can just look at the European Record for that. Just like the best cuber in the World is decided by who wins the World Champs.
 
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Doudou said:
Now the European champion will finish 4th at the European championnships.
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I took 4th place at the US Open in the Pyraminx last year. I got the NAR, but no trophy. Now, I could sit at try to justify that it was an "Open", and that the Europeans did have the right to be there, but it was sponsored by an American company, blah blah blah.

Or, I could just accept the fact that there were competitors there that were faster than me, and I took 4th.
 
Bryan said:
Doudou said:
Now the European champion will finish 4th at the European championnships.
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I took 4th place at the US Open in the Pyraminx last year. I got the NAR, but no trophy. Now, I could sit at try to justify that it was an "Open", and that the Europeans did have the right to be there, but it was sponsored by an American company, blah blah blah.

Or, I could just accept the fact that there were competitors there that were faster than me, and I took 4th.
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It's an Open not a Championship.
 
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