Prisma Puzzle Timer

[Toad]

I would also like a larger number option, mainly for videos.

I think it'd also be nice to implement a way to see the average of 5 and average of 12 at any point so you can see your progression. I really like how CCT shows ave5 and ave12 all the time and would like at least the option of something similar.

 

[Walter Souza]

make timer size manualy changed so I can make bigger numbers and make BG image available. so we cold use your timer on ompetitions

I would also like a larger number option, mainly for videos.

I've tried to implement this for a long time. Describing the scramble/time size and position using default layout managers is deceptively hard. I think I'll have bite the bullet and write a custom one.

 

[Walter Souza]

I think it'd also be nice to implement a way to see the average of 5 and average of 12 at any point so you can see your progression. I really like how CCT shows ave5 and ave12 all the time and would like at least the option of something similar.

You can select past solutions in the history window and see the related statistics. If you have a significant drop in your times, you should be able to see it in the graph.

 

[Erik]

Tried the Prisma timer now for a few solves. There are a lot of things I don't really like about it:
- size: the thing at the smallest state is huge. I can only see the last 9 times in the main screen and the time is shown very large.
- statistics: so many statistics are shown standard (like mean of 3) I'm not interested it, this also takes more space. The statistics in the history is fine of course.
- option to manually put times is is missing
- inspection time is either on or off, not adjustable
- at the history, there are big gaps when you don't solve for a while, that's kind of annoying and makes the function less usable. A line through all the points (of the average of the last 50 or 100 solves) would also help a lot to actually see your progress though only in combination with getting rid of the gaps again. Sessions don't seem to be stored either, but just added to the big pile.

I do like the many different scrambling options though I'm missing some still (qqTimer has all I want)
The 3D scramble result is cool too!

Conclusion: I'm sticking with CCT for now..

 

[Tall5001]

- option to manually put times is is missing

for the times go to File>Add Solution or just press Ctrl+A

 

[da25centz]

can you explain your skewb notation?

 

[Tall5001]

i think its based off of fixed corner rotation so the corner you hold facing you never moves and go from there

 

[Walter Souza]

Thanks Erik.

- size: the thing at the smallest state is huge. I can only see the last 9 times in the main screen and the time is shown very large.

The main window is being redesigned. I'll try to fit at least 12 times.

- statistics: so many statistics are shown standard (like mean of 3) I'm not interested it, this also takes more space. The statistics in the history is fine of course.

This was discussed before. Session statistics/mo3/avg5/avg12 seems like a good compromise. What do you suggest?

- option to manually put times is is missing

No, it's not. Ctrl+A to add a single time. History -> Add solutions... to add more than one.

- inspection time is either on or off, not adjustable

WCA regulation says 15 seconds, so it's a good default.

- at the history, there are big gaps when you don't solve for a while, that's kind of annoying and makes the function less usable. A line through all the points (of the average of the last 50 or 100 solves) would also help a lot to actually see your progress though only in combination with getting rid of the gaps again. Sessions don't seem to be stored either, but just added to the big pile.

It's a solution time x time graph, the gaps add information making it more usable. The mo100 graph was suggested before and I'll try it when I have the time (even though I don't know what to do with DNFs...).

The history window isn't just a "big pile" of times. Here are some scenarios that Prisma can handle easily and others can't:

- What's my best mean of X/average of Y ever?

Click on "Best mean of X"/"Best average of Y" label and the related solutions will be highlighted.

- What were the statistics of Dec/2010?

Select solutions between 2010-12-01 and 2010-12-31 (solutions are ordered chronologically) and histogram/graph/statistics will be updated accordingly.

- What would be my session statistics if I didn't DNF/pop?

Select session solutions and deselect (usually ctlr+click) the DNF/pop.

I do like the many different scrambling options though I'm missing some still (qqTimer has all I want)

Which scramblers do you miss? Prisma has more than 30, most of them random state scramblers.

The 3D scramble result is cool too!

Thanks.

Conclusion: I'm sticking with CCT for now..

Okay. Prisma is under active development, so keep an eye on this thread.

 

[Walter Souza]

can you explain your skewb notation?

Of course. It's a fixed corner notation: http://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/skewb.htm (scroll down to "notation").

Edit the color scheme to match your skewb and follow the scramble step by step (you can click on each move on the main window to see the result of the partial scramble).

 

[nickvu2]

I actually kinda like the graph. The more session I have the smaller the gaps between sessions get. I suspect that eventually it will become a continuous line...and after that much practice, there should be an obvious increase in performance.

@Walter: I love the blue banners telling me I have a new best. However, they don't seem to trigger for AVG12 and AVG100 (and perhaps mean10, but I wasn't paying attention).

EDTI: hmm...that time AVG12 banner did trigger.

 

[Walter Souza]

I actually kinda like the graph. The more session I have the smaller the gaps between sessions get. I suspect that eventually it will become a continuous line...and after that much practice, there should be an obvious increase in performance.

Exactly. The graph is useful for displaying long-term progress.

@Walter: I love the blue banners telling me I have a new best. However, they don't seem to trigger for AVG12 and AVG100 (and perhaps mean10, but I wasn't paying attention).

EDTI: hmm...that time AVG12 banner did trigger.

It works for single, mean of 3, mean of 100, average of 5 and average of 12.

 

[nickvu2]

It works for single, mean of 3, mean of 100, average of 5 and average of 12.

Guess I must have missed it =/

 

[da25centz]

so say I wanted to download the source code into eclipse and play around with some things, how would I go about doing that?

 

[Erik]

@Walter:

Statistics: in the main screen I find useful: avg 5/12/50/100 and session mean. Mean of 3 is not very useful anymore since only 6x6 and 7x7 are officially means of 3.
Scramblers: actually I'm not missing that much but a 2-gen of RU and MU would be cool since I fancy those I did find an error in the 4x4 scrambler at least, I got a nice Rw2 Lw2 the other day

About the graph: ideally imho you would see a red line of the last 50 or 100 solves. The change of this line more or less shows the improvement over time. In this I would keep away the gaps, days you didn't cube show up a bit odd otherwise, but maybe make some buttons to set this on or off. When doing this I would really suggest some other buttons to adjust the time frame though, otherwise you don't see any progress after half a year, but the last few months is maybe interesting for instance.
I image the result looks something like this then:

It's some old data I found somewhere.

Because I really like a graph like this for my times, I tried to copy the times from the history in excel. Then I noticed it is actually not possible to copy the whole history, or even better one column of it. It'd be really cool if it was possible to copy such a thing (and not that it all comes in one cell of course), or let it export to excel. I'm not sure how complicated this would be to implement though.

 

[hr.mohr]

Scramblers: actually I'm not missing that much but a 2-gen of RU and MU would be cool since I fancy those

You can add RU and LU scramblers using the category manager.

 

[Erik]

Oh thanks, that's fail #2 after the manual time-input *blush*

 

[Godmil]

(you can click on each move on the main window to see the result of the partial scramble)

Oh that is awesome! There is so much to this timer that I still don't know.
I'd like to second Erik's points about the graph, when I see it it's just a mass of points, I have no idea if there is any trend in my times at all.
But still, love this timer so much.

 

[bobkruijer]

Thanks, I realized that but I would also like to import dates - i.e. date (time), time, scramble. I can use SQL if needed, can you point me to the right location where the solves are stored?

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

Could you make it so the preset categories can be edited/reset, for example, I would want 3x3x3 Cube, not Rubik's Cube but its just an idea. Also, Pyramorphix scrambler?

Edit: Will it wok with a QJ timer, not a speedstacks one?

 

[theace]

OFF TOPIC: Does anyone know what the little "Stackmat Sim" program was? It runs in the background and activates your timer when you press 2 keys instead of the spacebar.