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Blindsolving Accomplishment Thread

Having one image per card means that each new attempt will have the exact same 52 images in a different journey, and I can definitely see this causing problems.

Not necessarily. I met Boris Konrad at the 2006 World sport stacking championships, and he told me that he uses 1 image per card, and each journey has 52 locations. However, he told me that the bulk of his memorization prep work is in coming up with new Journeys! Rather than expand the image lists, he expanded his available journeys pool. This way he does not need to reuse a journey for many attempts in a row! I did not ask him how many journeys he had, but he did emphasize that he has "a lot" of journeys prepared.

I always thought that was a very cool idea. I've personally taken the Ben Pridmore approach as well, but it doesn't have to be that way to be good.

Chris
 
@riff A friend of mine, Ángel de Jaén, who can do this (Spanish), memorizes mixing the journey method with a story, so that there is a relationship beeween the nth item and the (n-1)th item. So it isn't efficient if you want to know, for instance, what card is in the 36th position, or what position the ace of diamonds is located at, but it works well to recite the whole list of cards, or to MBLD. Nothing really new, but yeah, I hope this may help or at least inspire you.
 
Not necessarily.

Okay, I think I'll continue with 1 image per card then. I'm still going to place 3 images per location though, so that the interactions between the images make each journey more unique.

You say you use an image for each card pair? How did you go about associating the images with the cards? If I ever got into card memorizing really seriously I would want to do this anyway, since a journey of half the length has got to cut your times down a bit!

How fast can you do it?

@riff A friend of mine, Ángel de Jaén, who can do this (Spanish), memorizes mixing the journey method with a story, so that there is a relationship beeween the nth item and the (n-1)th item. So it isn't efficient if you want to know, for instance, what card is in the 36th position, or what position the ace of diamonds is located at, but it works well to recite the whole list of cards, or to MBLD. Nothing really new, but yeah, I hope this may help or at least inspire you.

The journey method I use somewhat accomplishes this already, with every 3rd card not being directly associated to the previous one, since I place 3 images per room.
 
Okay, I think I'll continue with 1 image per card then. I'm still going to place 3 images per location though, so that the interactions between the images make each journey more unique.

You say you use an image for each card pair? How did you go about associating the images with the cards? If I ever got into card memorizing really seriously I would want to do this anyway, since a journey of half the length has got to cut your times down a bit!

How fast can you do it?

Oops, I think maybe I worded my last post not as clearly as I thought. I do not do card memorization, and have never tried. I was simply trying to relay what Boris Konrad told me of his card memorization approach, from what I can remember at least. I remember asking him about the differences between his systems and Ben Pridmore's. It's been a while, but I vaguely remember him saying something along the lines that it's all personal preference, and just pick the method that works best for you, which for him is 1 image per location and tons of journeys and locations to choose from.

Chris
 
Ah, ok. I thought when you said, "I've personally taken the Ben Pridmore approach as well, but it doesn't have to be that way to be good.", you were referring to cards, not cubing. I also use 2 pieces per image for cubing (well I just started, anyway).

You should give card memorization a try. I'm positive you'd be a lot faster than me on my first attempt, since you're much more experienced at quickly memorizing using the journey method.
 
When I tried card memorization a couple of years ago, it took me 18 minutes to memorize the first try, and I got a suit of one card wrong. On my second attempt, I got it right, and memorization time was just 10:20. (Recall time was 5:40.) The reason I was so slow on the first try is that I was trying to do some fancy packing that time; with the second try, I just went with one image per card - it worked much better.
 
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