I really think there should be SR(State Records)

[Lotsofsloths]

I'm really starting to think that the WCA should start state/territory records.
As WR's and NR are getting more and more imposible to break, it just seemed like a good idea.
Any opinions?

 

[shelley]

Are there state records for any other sport? It would only make sense for the US and maybe Canada anyway. What would this accomplish? World and national records aren't supposed to be easy to break.

 

[Stefan]

Wrong direction. World records and personal records are natural and enough. Everything in between is arbitrary and artificial and ought to go.

 

[Karthik]

You can't start having new catagories just because the existing records are difficult to break.
More over divisions based on state and up to some extent nationalities, not just in the context of cubing seem very irrelevent to me.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

well, how about this:
What if they ranked the averages(on the PB section on your WCA page) in your state/territory/province, then your world.
It gives a much better sense of competition.

 

[joey]

It would be a ridiculous task to undertake.

 

[watermelon]

I agree with Stefan. Just look at the African records for example, there are only a few people who have citizenship in African countries, yet they get to claim the honor of a continental record.

Also, as Shelley said, what about all of the countries that aren't divided into states/provinces? This would only make a difference in a few countries.

 

[Doudou]

And we could also rank people with their First Name.
For example, I would have both WRs in the category : 3x3 speedsolve with a First Name beginning with a E.

 

[Dene]

Yea sorry Daniel, this is a bad idea. The idea of a record is that it is tough to beat. And as mentioned above, it would only be of use for America and Canada (and Australia, lol).

 

[ExoCorsair]

You can have state records if you establish an American Cubing Association or something similar.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Well, Maybe not official, but I think every state should have its own open every year, which only citizens of that state can participate in. But this would also have to include WCA delegates, and I highly doubt there is a WCA delegate from each state xD

 

[Dene]

You seem to want to focus all cubing towards America, but you have to realise that other countries do it too. Also, hosting a competition is up to whoever wants to host it. If you're prepared to do a competition for every state every year (you'll get one every week!) then go ahead.

 

[LarsN]

If you really want this you can just set up a page for your self and keep a list of the records. At speedcubing.dk (danish language site) we have a nordic and a scandinavian list of records. This is just for fun because we are very competetive. Denmark is of course the best country in scandinavia, only not at speedcubing I'm afraid

 

[shelley]

Well, Maybe not official, but I think every state should have its own open every year, which only citizens of that state can participate in. But this would also have to include WCA delegates, and I highly doubt there is a WCA delegate from each state xD

I don't think delegates is the problem, as I doubt the WCA would want to concern itself with a bunch of state records from just one country anyway. Remember, the W in WCA stands for World. Besides, how do you know there would be sufficient interest to hold a competition in every state if it's limited to state residents? How many cubers (serious enough to want to go to a competition) do you expect there to be in Wyoming (just to name one sparsely populated state)?

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Very true, I guess I hadn't FULLY thought all of this through xD

 

[coopersacatfilms]

well it would make sense to have state records so you can see sho you are better than close by however I think it might be narrowing it down a little too much but I am for the state records you should e-mail them or something.

 

[Bryan]

OK, what about people who are in college? What would their "resident" state be? Also, if the best person in the world lives in your state, you still won't have a record.

As for competition in every state, it would be nice if there was a central place where people could list their interest in a competition or if they want to organize and are hoping for a delegate.

 

[Cerberus]

yeah great and for fairness do the same for other lands too, so I am hopefully #1 in Hamburg ^^
But for real, it's nonsense, you could make it unofficially and it would be fine for you but why should the WORLD Cubing Association (as shelley said before) care so much more for the usa than for other lands?

 

[mrbiggs]

Another problem is that most states would probably have either very bad records, if there are few cubers from that state, or really hard-to-beat records, if there are a lot.

 

[qqwref]

Well... I can see the records for Wyoming (there's like one cuber from there that I know of) vs California being rather different indeed. California is just that awesome

The only argument I can see for separating the US into different provinces is size / number of competitors. The US is much bigger and has many more competitors than a lot of other countries; as of today 934 US citizens have competed, as opposed to a sum of 933 in the next FIVE countries. The US also has a significantly larger population and area than most (all?) European countries and has over 10 times as many competitors as the vast majority of countries out there. It's not that I agree with the idea that there should be state records, but it wouldn't necessarily be easy to get them than some of the existing country records.

Incidentally, if we do eventually end up considering state records, it would be useful to also divide similarly huge countries (China? Russia?) into provinces of some type, just so that the records are more proportional.