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I can't even believe this is a debate. I follow the rule of thumb that unless the girl specifically asks that I don't open a door and be a gentleman that it's assumed I should be one. Im not sure if you were brought up to respect women but I was so I generally follow that rule.
 
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freshcuber said:
I can't even believe this is a debate. I follow the rule of thumb that unless the girl specifically asks that I don't open a door and be a gentleman that it's assumed I should be one. Im not sure if you were brought up to respect women but I was so I generally follow that rule.
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Don't you open doors for men?
I'm not sure if you were brought up to respect men, but I was...
 
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Yes I do but we're not discussing men. We're discussing women. A gentleman isn't just nice to girls. It's an all the time thing.
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It is relevant to discuss men if we're discussing whether a certain behaviour towards women is sexist or not.
So then, saying "One should open doors for women" isn't really telling your whole story. You shouldn't say that. You should say, "One should open doors for everybody." That statement I have no problem with.
 
This is literally one of the most useless debates I have ever read on the forum. If we're looking to debate about gender relations in today's society start a new thread but we're now totally off topic and doing nothing but arguing like petty children. And it's not even a good argument. It's all technicalities and loopholes.
 
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This is literally one of the most useless debates I have ever read on the forum. If we're looking to debate about gender relations in today's society start a new thread but we're now totally off topic and doing nothing but arguing like petty children. And it's not even a good argument. It's all technicalities and loopholes.
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I'm arguing perfectly intelligently, and I'm not arguing technicalities and loopholes. If you want to take your toys and go home, that's fine, but be upfront about why you're doing it.

-sigh-
 
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Why are you guys arguing over doors?
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I'll give you a real answer, even though I know the sole purpose of that post was to provide yourself with a feeling of superiority-

freshcuber said opening doors for women is not sexist. I disagreed, and think that if one holds doors open for women but does differently for men, that's sexist.
 
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Stop picking arguments with people just to boost your self-esteem. Instead of arguing against other peoples opinions why don't we all respect other peoples views, beliefs, and opinions instead of putting them down
 
That's a perfectly true fact. I don't know of you were raised to respect women. I know that I was. Some parents don't instill that value in their children. Some cultures don't believe on treating women as equals. I'm sorry of you misinterpreted my statement as aggressive. I was pointing out a fact.
 
How exactly do you tell there is an air of superiority? You read words. You don't hear written sentences. The only "air" of anything you are drawing out of what I write is what you choose to give it.
 
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