Roux, fridrich, or zz

[Edward]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

 

[Joker]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

 

[Edward]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

>Recognizes cases instantly
You're assuming that this applies to our perfect Faz.

 

[waffle=ijm]

And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

What I was looking for! =)

now lets say that these Faz's can preform everything smoothly

example
Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Another good point.

Can you still say which is better?

 

[Joker]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

>Recognizes cases instantly
You're assuming that this applies to our perfect Faz.

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>
And perfect Faz? Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

 

[y3k9]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

>Recognizes cases instantly
You're assuming that this applies to our perfect Faz.

Ok, this faz can instantly recognize cases, so what? Maybe he turns super slow.

 

[waffle=ijm]

I mentioned his TPS is off the charts.

 

[Edward]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

>Recognizes cases instantly
You're assuming that this applies to our perfect Faz.

Ok, this faz can instantly recognize cases, so what? Maybe he turns super slow.

>His TPS is off the charts and let's give him the perfect cube too.

Whop: Ninja'd

 

[Andrew Ricci]

And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

What I was looking for! =)

now lets say that these Faz's can preform everything smoothly

example
Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Another good point.

Can you still say which is better?

Unfortunately, there is no Raz or Zaz. All the "Faz's" out there chose Fridrich. I guess we'll have to encourage everyone to try these methods to truly see.

 

[Joker]

you know what I just realized. methods can't be fast since they are systems of solving and by no way are capable of physically solving the cube.

people can be fast though.

So lets put it this way. Lets say a "Faz" existed for each of the 3 methods. This Faz is completely color neutral and recognizes cases (this would include blocks and bad edges) instantly. His TPS is off the charts and lets give him the perfect cube too. One that doesn't lock and pop like it was a night club.

Now what?

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Recognition counts.
And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

>Recognizes cases instantly
You're assuming that this applies to our perfect Faz.

Ok, this faz can instantly recognize cases, so what? Maybe he turns super slow.

>His TPS is off the charts and let's give him the perfect cube too.

Whop: Ninja'd

Ik his TPS is off the charts. But some fingertricks are naturally faster to execute than others.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

 

[y3k9]

nah, im good at memorizing stuff.

I guarantee that you'll quit in a few days. It takes a lot of work to be able to use that many algs fluently. As Mr. Edward said, it's much easier said than done.

Fridrich anyway . why to go learn ZZ with hell of algorithms when still records with Fridrich are faster than ZZ ?!

I'm faster than you. Why are you still cubing?

A world record was set in the 80s with a corners first method. Why did people bother to explore other methods when that method held the record?

I dont even give a care if its a lot of algrithoms, ill still memorize them.

 

[waffle=ijm]

And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

What I was looking for! =)

now lets say that these Faz's can preform everything smoothly

example
Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Another good point.

Can you still say which is better?

Unfortunately, there is no Raz or Zaz. All the "Faz's" out there chose Fridrich. I guess we'll have to encourage everyone to try these methods to truly see.

your point is completely invalid to this argument and I love Sarah more than you do.

 

[Edward]

nah, im good at memorizing stuff.

I guarantee that you'll quit in a few days. It takes a lot of work to be able to use that many algs fluently. As Mr. Edward said, it's much easier said than done.

Fridrich anyway . why to go learn ZZ with hell of algorithms when still records with Fridrich are faster than ZZ ?!

I'm faster than you. Why are you still cubing?

A world record was set in the 80s with a corners first method. Why did people bother to explore other methods when that method held the record?

I dont even give a care if its a lot of algrithoms, ill still memorize them.

Can you? Let's see! Prove your words! Get goin!

 

[y3k9]

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

What if one faz has an arm cut off, another cant remember algrithoms, and the third turns super slow and is lazy so he peels the stickers usually.

 

[y3k9]

nah, im good at memorizing stuff.

I guarantee that you'll quit in a few days. It takes a lot of work to be able to use that many algs fluently. As Mr. Edward said, it's much easier said than done.

Fridrich anyway . why to go learn ZZ with hell of algorithms when still records with Fridrich are faster than ZZ ?!

I'm faster than you. Why are you still cubing?

A world record was set in the 80s with a corners first method. Why did people bother to explore other methods when that method held the record?

I dont even give a care if its a lot of algrithoms, ill still memorize them.

Can you? Let's see! Prove your words! Get goin!

Kk, where can i find these algrithoms for zbll?

 

[waffle=ijm]

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

What if one faz has an arm cut off, another cant remember algrithoms, and the third turns super slow and is lazy so he peels the stickers usually.

this is also beyond the argument. You said that we were "kids." Yeah. Right.

 

[Edward]

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

What if one faz has an arm cut off, another cant remember algrithoms, and the third turns super slow and is lazy so he peels the stickers usually.

Honestly

Spoiler

I'd like to know what exactly you're talking about. What does that have to with the discussion of these methods .-..

 

[Joker]

And some moves (fingertricks) are faster than others.

What I was looking for! =)

now lets say that these Faz's can preform everything smoothly

example
Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

Wouldn't that leave it up to movecount? Assuming all 3 Faz's are turning at the same speed.

Another good point.

Can you still say which is better?

Unfortunately, there is no Raz or Zaz. All the "Faz's" out there chose Fridrich. I guess we'll have to encourage everyone to try these methods to truly see.

your point is completely invalid to this argument and I love Sarah more than you do.

lolwut

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

eh good point...but I'm still standing by what I said before lol.

 

[y3k9]

Not all cases can be recognized that instantly no matter who you are >_>

Have you seen faz's transition from OLL to PLL? It's too fast to be seen so you haven't.

Well still, some fingertricks are just more natural than others

I'm saying each Faz is fluent in their respective methods.

Roux - <M U>
ZZ - <R U L> etc.
CFOP - well...

What if one faz has an arm cut off, another cant remember algrithoms, and the third turns super slow and is lazy so he peels the stickers usually.

Honestly

Spoiler

I'd like to know what exactly you're talking about. What does that have to with the discussion of these methods .-..

And... none of them are into cubing.