DaYan 4x4x4 Spring Structure Master Cube

[amostay2004]

Ugh..6.6cm

 

[DeathCuberK]

6.6 cm.... Ugh that's almost as big as a tiled QJ. That cube was WAY too big for my hands.

I am also hesitant to buy this, because I expect that a few days after I buy it, X-cube will come out. X-cube looks amazing.

 

[whitelynx_nivla]

well, to tell to be truth
maru 4x4x4 is illegal in market because it brake the v-cube patent
v-cube comp has warn me about this, that's why alot of international e-shops dont offer that again. (even popbuying and lightake)

Maybe they could sell wome V4 instead of prevent us from buying maru 4x4x4. These patent stuff are getting more and more stupid every days . . .

both i have agree and disagree parts

it's true that for us, it's unfair not to be able to cube with good cubes when the idea already there. somehow i feel that v-cube doesnt want to make the cubing world better.they just stick to the v-cube 5 tru 7 and make money from there.
some of my friends says "V-Cube win the patents, but not the cubers"
And I agree with that

but in other hand, i do highly respect patents. Copying is piece of cake, but creativity is unbuy-able.For example, let's see all the chinese KO puzzles now. They were only few, Eastsheen Clones (im not sure if these were patented), V-Cube Clones. But now? There are Fisher Cubes Clones, Axis Cube, Rhombus Prism, Hexagonal Prism, and the list will go on.

If these dont be supressed (I dont think we can stop this tho), I'm affraid lots of puzzle builder wont dare to publish their idea, their creativity. And I dont think most of the cubers want that to happen

-just sharring my 2 cents-

Let's just back to the main topic (dayan 4x4x4) shall we ?

 

[deadalnix]

I have nothing against patent in a general scope. But when it is used to prevent other the ability to sell you don't event sell yourself, it become damn stupid.

I could perfectly understand the position of verdes's company if they were actually selling V4. But in the current situation, this just doesn't make sense at all.

Anyway, does somebody have this cube (the dayan 4x4x4) ? Is it possible to have some picture of the internal mecanism ?

 

[Stefan]

Last time I wanted to buy from them, I got the wrong item an endless discution to get a refund.

Dude... at least four shops were mentioned in this thread. Are you talking about all of them?

maru 4x4x4 is illegal in market because it brake the v-cube patent

You're a patent law expert?

v-cube comp has warn me about this

Oh... I see. They want it to be illegal, so that's why it is.

 

[deadalnix]

Last time I wanted to buy from them, I got the wrong item an endless discution to get a refund.

Dude... at least four shops were mentioned in this thread. Are you talking about all of them?

Ok, I misexpress myself. I meant popbuying.

Also, I'm not a patent lawyer, but one thing for sure : if verdes want to go in court against maru, it's definitively recievable. Have a look at verdes's patent, it definitively apply to the maru cube. Anyway, the maru cube isn't illegal until a judge decide it is.

 

[whitelynx_nivla]

maru 4x4x4 is illegal in market because it brake the v-cube patent

You're a patent law expert?

v-cube comp has warn me about this

Oh... I see. They want it to be illegal, so that's why it is.[/QUOTE]

Well, i dont mean to be like one
i'm just sharring what i know and what my opinion about all this.

Yeah, I think that can be true. Preventing rival brand, by mark it as Illegal. But I must admit that the structure is indeed very similar to the V-Cube mech
http://www.google.com/patents?id=TVabAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview
But Maru is the 1st brand that came up with the alignment parts that lock the center pieces in horizontal turns. Let's just hope that V-Cube dont turn out to be actually use this idea for the next event ordo puzzles.:fp

 

[theace]

I am also hesitant to buy this, because I expect that a few days after I buy it, X-cube will come out. X-cube looks amazing.

eh?

 

[Stefan]

I am also hesitant to buy this, because I expect that a few days after I buy it, X-cube will come out. X-cube looks amazing.

eh?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=x-cube+4x4

 

[Chrish]

A lot of people on these forums don't understand what they read and try to bring it up in conversation not knowing if it applies correctly.

 

[deadalnix]

I am also hesitant to buy this, because I expect that a few days after I buy it, X-cube will come out. X-cube looks amazing.

You have absolutly no clue if xcube 4 we be released or not. I could add that maybe it's an epic fake, but last time, it degenerate, so let's assume this is a real one.

 

[DeathCuberK]

True, but I will wait to find out if the new Dayan 4x4 is as amazing as it looks, and I will wait and see if the X-cube 4x4 ever is released. I would be happy to buy them both, as 4x4 is my favorite event, even though I suck at it.

 

[Kurbitur]

well, to tell to be truth
maru 4x4x4 is illegal in market because it brake the v-cube patent
v-cube comp has warn me about this, that's why alot of international e-shops dont offer that again. (even popbuying and lightake)

Maybe they could sell wome V4 instead of prevent us from buying maru 4x4x4. These patent stuff are getting more and more stupid every days . . .

stupid to have a patent on a cube you haven't released and not even designed so other can't improve your design! who invented the prevent-core-misalignment piece in maro 4x4? not Mr.V

Btw im thinking of buying a patent ona good and comon cube mechaninsm so no one else can produce cubes like that and then im not going to make any cubes like mr.v

Wrong. Mr. Verdes has real copies of all of cubes. (At mleast the 4x4-7x7, I know for sure.) and how do patents not show designs? lmao

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

and for the x cube guys, the x cube is almost identical in mechanism as the maru 4x4
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/xb27/4651976

 

[masterofthebass]

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

go give v-cubes the money to produce it and I'm sure they would.

 

[Chrish]

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

go give v-cubes the money to produce it and I'm sure they would.

Verdes has made enough money to release them.

 

[Whyusosrs?]

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

go give v-cubes the money to produce it and I'm sure they would.

Verdes has made enough money to release them.

You keep v-cube's financial books?

 

[masterofthebass]

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

go give v-cubes the money to produce it and I'm sure they would.

Verdes has made enough money to release them.

You keep v-cube's financial books?

and have the knowledge of how much it costs to run an international manufacturing company?

 

[daniel0731ex]

well, to tell to be truth
maru 4x4x4 is illegal in market because it brake the v-cube patent
v-cube comp has warn me about this, that's why alot of international e-shops dont offer that again. (even popbuying and lightake)

Maybe they could sell wome V4 instead of prevent us from buying maru 4x4x4. These patent stuff are getting more and more stupid every days . . .

stupid to have a patent on a cube you haven't released and not even designed so other can't improve your design! who invented the prevent-core-misalignment piece in maro 4x4? not Mr.V

Btw im thinking of buying a patent ona good and comon cube mechaninsm so no one else can produce cubes like that and then im not going to make any cubes like mr.v

Wrong. Mr. Verdes has real copies of all of cubes. (At mleast the 4x4-7x7, I know for sure.) and how do patents not show designs? lmao

Ahh yeah he has designed them i saw the patent, bu tthe patent is getting 4 years old *** release da cubes. As im onlyu been cubing for about 6 months, how long has the v5-7 been out?

and for the x cube guys, the x cube is almost identical in mechanism as the maru 4x4
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/xb27/4651976

no. go look at the other blog post

 

[TK 421]

the core seems spherical as a crazy 4x4x4 type 1= good performance
pieces= same as rubiks 4x4x4 (or at least almost), i don't know if this affects performance
tuning and adjustment: first core hemisphere= 4 screw. second core hemisphere= 4 screw how the heck do you tune the tension

 

[daniel0731ex]

the core seems spherical as a crazy 4x4x4 type 1= good performance
pieces= same as rubiks 4x4x4 (or at least almost), i don't know if this affects performance
tuning and adjustment: first core hemisphere= 4 screw. second core hemisphere= 4 screw how the heck do you tune the tension

there are 27 springs in total in this cube. one for each 4x4 center piece and 3 springs for the 2x2.