New Sitewide Rules

[iasimp1997]

These rules seem okay. But are occasional sarcastic/amusing pictures allowed?

I'd try to limit them to the Off-Topic Discussion forum, if you must use them. Generally speaking, these images don't contribute anything meaningful to the threads that they're in otherwise.

I didn't word that correctly. Say if there's a thread like "What is the best cube????????"... Sarcastic comments/pictures etc. would be permitted?

 

[PatrickJameson]

These rules seem okay. But are occasional sarcastic/amusing pictures allowed?

I'd try to limit them to the Off-Topic Discussion forum, if you must use them. Generally speaking, these images don't contribute anything meaningful to the threads that they're in otherwise.

I didn't word that correctly. Say if there's a thread like "What is the best cube????????"... Sarcastic comments/pictures etc. would be permitted?

No. The mods will deal with the thread title. If you think the thread is silly and the OP shouldn't have his question answered seriously for whatever reason, just don't post.

 

[Radcuber]

Question: Is crap a rude/offensive word?

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

Question: Is crap a rude/offensive word?

Not really. As long as you put a good limit to it. A lot of people say it. Stuff like b, f, and sh, or more offensive.

 

[pjk]

Among everything that has been said: simply think before you post. Ask yourself: is this reasonable? Does it help anyone? Will it get me help? These rules exist to make speedsolving.com a better place. If you simply read and understand them, your intuition will tell you whether your post is worthwhile (you shouldn't have to ask: does this fit within the rules?). We aren't here to correct everything you do, make it easy on us and think before you post. It is simple.

Let's invite anyone and everyone to join our community, and welcome them to it. We were all noobs at one time, respect them, help them. No one is perfect. One thing that makes our online community unique is that a lot of us meet in person at competitions. Don't change the way you act because you're online.

 

[Sakarie]

I'm not so sure about the rule against "search for it"-replys. When some people can't get enough of the "what is a good 3op guide", then you should be allowed to just answer that. Sometimes questions aren't worthy of getting a proper answer.

 

[pjk]

I'm not so sure about the rule against "search for it"-replys. When some people can't get enough of the "what is a good 3op guide", then you should be allowed to just answer that. Sometimes questions aren't worthy of getting a proper answer.

Link them to the solution and tell them how you found it so they know for next time. If they do it repetitively, report the post telling why you reported it, and we will take necessary action to prevent the user from continually asking questions that can easily be searched for.

We do send PM's to every new member telling them to search, but even with this (and a reminder before they create a topic), people still don't read it and follow the rules.

 

[Stefan]

Can we get a rule against excessive quoting? Like quote trees and annoying full-quotes?

 

[maggot]

as sarah stated, post with disregard for grammar and spelling. i feel sorry that my english is not the best, many times when im tired. so, should i not make posts because my english is poor? i have to point out that while a lot of people speak english very well, there are some member that like to post here that have question or comment to make but they do not have english as first language. or am i misunderstanding?
another topic is discussion of v-cube knockoff. are we only talking about making topics of these knockoff? or is this also includes discussion of knockoff but in a general way? like for example, there are people that talk about they have YJ supercube and compare it to vcube that most people use... i have seen such post as, well, my YJ 5x5 turns better than your vcube and you practiced with it at the competition. is this not allowed? i have made posts such as, YJ 4x4 core misalignment/explosion problem in general discussion where OP asks about the cube from people who own it. am i wrong to do this?
thank you ^^; i like the new added rule. hopefully people will not make thread that is annoying or bump meaningless thread to answer questions asked over 2 year ago by member who dont even cube anymore lol.

 

[Stefan]

or am i misunderstanding?

"Posts with blatant disregard to spelling and grammar."

Someone just having trouble with English isn't "blatantly disregarding". It means people like that American who never bothers to capitalize "I" or the start of a sentence.

 

[brunson]

as sarah stated, post with disregard for grammar and spelling. i feel sorry that my english is not the best, many times when im tired. so, should i not make posts because my english is poor? i have to point out that while a lot of people speak english very well, there are some member that like to post here that have question or comment to make but they do not have english as first language. or am i misunderstanding?

As Stefan already pointed out, if English isn't your native language or you just have trouble with it we ask is that you do your best, we're not going to hold it against you. Your best seems to be pretty good, except for your blatant disregard of the shift key. Proper capitalization makes reading your posts easier.

another topic is discussion of v-cube knockoff. are we only talking about making topics of these knockoff? or is this also includes discussion of knockoff but in a general way? like for example, there are people that talk about they have YJ supercube and compare it to vcube that most people use... i have seen such post as, well, my YJ 5x5 turns better than your vcube and you practiced with it at the competition. is this not allowed? i have made posts such as, YJ 4x4 core misalignment/explosion problem in general discussion where OP asks about the cube from people who own it. am i wrong to do this?

From what I understand, the YJ infringes on the current valid patents of Verdes and his V-cubes. I will give infractions for any discussion of patent infringing knockoffs, especially discussion of where to buy them. When Verdes' patent expires, I will no longer do so. If YJ were to demonstrate that their design is materially different from Verdes and would be patentable in its own right, then the same.

 

[masterofthebass]

From what I understand, the YJ infringes on the current valid patents of Verdes and his V-cubes. I will give infractions for any discussion of patent infringing knockoffs, especially discussion of where to buy them. When Verdes' patent expires, I will no longer do so. If YJ were to demonstrate that their design is materially different from Verdes and would be patentable in its own right, then the same.

The rules say you aren't allowed to discuss where to get them.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

The rules say you aren't allowed to discuss where to get them.

Or to promote them. If wanted to take to sort of an extreme, posting a review about how good a knockoff is could be taken as "promoting."

 

[jms_gears1]

The rules say you aren't allowed to discuss where to get them.

Or to promote them. If wanted to take to sort of an extreme, posting a review about how good a knockoff is could be taken as "promoting."

but then saying how bad they are would do the exact opposite.
IMO reviews are not promoting them, just stating whether they are good or not, would not be promoting them.

slightly off-topic: Has anyone tried to sanction YJ yet?

EDIT: does this mean kir has to stop being Kir?

 

[FatBoyXPC]

but then saying how bad they are would do the exact opposite.
IMO reviews are not promoting them, just stating whether they are good or not, would not be promoting them.

Hence the "taken to an extreme."

 

[radmin]

From what I understand, the YJ infringes on the current valid patents of Verdes and his V-cubes. I will give infractions for any discussion of patent infringing knockoffs, especially discussion of where to buy them. When Verdes' patent expires, I will no longer do so. If YJ were to demonstrate that their design is materially different from Verdes and would be patentable in its own right, then the same.

The rules say you aren't allowed to discuss where to get them.

If you are going to have a rule like that there needs to be a taboo list.
Cubes on the lit need documentation that they are in fact knock offs.

Just because some people on a forum believe a patent was infringed doesn't make it so.

 

[DavidWoner]

Just because some people on a forum believe a patent was infringed doesn't make it so.

How about if the inventor of the product says it's a knockoff, and has asked us not to post where to buy the knockoffs? Is that good enough for you?

c. Worthless Replying
Don't reply to a post unless you have something of value to add to it. Replying with "+1" or "go search for it" is not allowed, as it does no good for the topic creator or the community. If you see this behavior and would like to respond to it, see: 1e. "Regarding Backseat Moderation".

As a reminder, this includes using Let Me Google That For You.

 

[radmin]

How about if the inventor of the product says it's a knockoff, and has asked us not to post where to buy the knockoffs? Is that good enough for you?

If that's the case, post the request with the cube's entry in the taboo list. Simple.

 

[Stefan]

How about if the inventor of the product says it's a knockoff

Yeah cause he has no reason for wishful thinking whatsoever. They should simply show an independent expert's opinion or better court ruling stating that for example the YJ 4x4 and 6x6 and the Maru 4x4 are illegal (I picked these cause they differ from the V-cube design), and where (as they have patents for 51 of the world's 200+ countries). All I've seen so far is claims and intimidation.

Though the point here that I think radmin was trying to make is: How do we know what we can talk about here? Are you going to punish someone for talking about a cube he didn't know you consider illegal? That's where his proposed taboo list would help. So we don't have to guess what you think.

c. Worthless Replying
Don't reply to a post unless you have something of value to add to it. Replying with "+1" or "go search for it" is not allowed, as it does no good for the topic creator or the community. If you see this behavior and would like to respond to it, see: 1e. "Regarding Backseat Moderation".

As a reminder, this includes using Let Me Google That For You.

Bawww. Why? As long as it's done properly (i.e. the google results are helpful), I find that ok. And much better than giving them a direct link, teaching them nothing.

 

[StachuK1992]

c. Worthless Replying

This includes using Let Me Google That For You.

Why? As long as it's done properly (i.e. the google results are helpful), I find that ok. And much better than giving them a direct link, teaching them nothing.

Yes, when one sees a post that is quite easy to Google for, then while it may be taken as a slap in the face if they choose to perceive it that way, the root cause to respond with a LMGTFY link is to teach. Whether that post is to be a slap in the face or not should be evident in the rest of the post. If the rest of said post is blank, then one should not assume hostility.