Investigation results regarding unsportsmanlike behaviour

[Hai Yan Zhuang]

The man r_517 abuse me for a long time. What he said is not true.He lie.

 

[r_517]

The man r_517 abuse me for a long time. What he said is not true.He lie.

rofl.

again, i'm just quoting others' including the delegates, IAC, organisers etc.

anyway, if u insist u have no intention of threatening others making u the delegate, i have to say this is ********.

 

[dabmasta]

The man r_517 abuse me for a long time. What he said is not true.He lie.

He is using quotes. I don't think he is abusing you.

 

[hawkmp4]

I don't know and won't pretend to know what has happened. But all of Haiyan's conduct since the matter became official has not endeared him to me...

 

[musicninja17]

Please people, we should just calm down and let the WCA do their job.

 

[hawkmp4]

I think that would be the wise thing to do. But really, we have no impact on the process. Haiyan continuing to make public accusations, whether they are true or not, is only going to harm his chances at not receiving punishment.

 

[endless_akatsuki]

Haiyan reminds me of Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is), but I respect them both for their achievements.

Even if you can't be a role model for personality, you can still really inspire people to get better.


It would be kinda stupid for this dispute to last much longer...'cause then August would be over, and then what? Hopefully, WCA will just do its thing, and we move on.

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Spoiler

[23:50:09] <Swordsman_Kirby> HEY GUYS
[23:50:13] <Swordsman_Kirby> I DEMAND A SECOND ROUND OF BLD AT NATS
[23:50:20] <shellie> YOU GOT IT
[23:50:23] <Swordsman_Kirby> HAH
[23:50:24] <Swordsman_Kirby> YOU OBLIGED

Hrm.

 

[beingforitself]

Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is)

I'm agnostic towards the main topic of this thread as I'm not involved in the speedcubing community, but I really must step in to defend Mr. Phelps here.

1)DUI when he was 19, blood alcohol content was only barely above legal limit. Apologized profusely, took responsibility for his actions, did community service.

2)Smoked weed. This actually makes him more saintly, not less.

Please get your facts straight.

 

[ThatGuy]

Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is)

I'm agnostic towards the main topic of this thread as I'm not involved in the speedcubing community, but I really must step in to defend Mr. Phelps here.

1)DUI when he was 19, blood alcohol content was only barely above legal limit. Apologized profusely, took responsibility for his actions, did community service.

2)Smoked weed. This actually makes him more saintly, not less.

Please get your facts straight.

Wait what?

 

[r_517]

Update:

Another statement from an organiser

Dear Anders Larsson,

I'm sorry for the delay reply, because I'm very busy with my works last weekend. All the description about Haiyan Zhoung in the Hangzhou Open has been written in the Qianqian Wei's first reply.We reviewed together,I admit all the things in her email and signed my name at the end of that email.

Now I send you this email to replenish some informations about that.

First I must say that one of our workers had made a fault to tell Haiyan Zhuang there are two rounds in the 3x3x3 BLD.Because the time was not enough and the schedule published online is only one round for the 3x3x3 BLD competition,the 2nd round adding of 3x3x3 BLD was not approval. And then Haiyan Zhuang took a microphone in the middle of the competition to complaining and denouncing. He also persuaded others not to join WCA competitions after Hangzhou Open if Chris and Ming Zheng still be the delegate of those competitions.

We could understand his feeling that he want to have more opportunities to make a excellent record,but the behavior of him was not appropriate.

If you have any questions, pls contact with us

Best regards

Xiaoping Liu

ps: All quotes here have already been shown to the public on MF8. There'll be more evidence as long as the witnesses agree to post them public.

 

[riffz]

Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is)

I'm agnostic towards the main topic of this thread as I'm not involved in the speedcubing community, but I really must step in to defend Mr. Phelps here.

1)DUI when he was 19, blood alcohol content was only barely above legal limit. Apologized profusely, took responsibility for his actions, did community service.

2)Smoked weed. This actually makes him more saintly, not less.

Please get your facts straight.

Wait what?

Weed isn't bad for you. In fact, I actually lost a bit of respect for him when he apologized and claimed smoking weed was a mistake, when really he wasn't sorry. But then again he had to or he probably would've lost his sponsorship.

 

[endless_akatsuki]

Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is)

I'm agnostic towards the main topic of this thread as I'm not involved in the speedcubing community, but I really must step in to defend Mr. Phelps here.

1)DUI when he was 19, blood alcohol content was only barely above legal limit. Apologized profusely, took responsibility for his actions, did community service.

2)Smoked weed. This actually makes him more saintly, not less.

Please get your facts straight.

I was referring to his personality (alcohol and weed...woop-de-doo. As if no one else in the world ever did those); from what I've heard, he can sometimes be a butt. Same goes for a load of others, but Phelps jumped to my head first.

All I'm saying is that just because someone is the best in the world, doesn't mean they're that great of a person. They are still great role models.

 

[PeterNewton]

this is what happens when ur life revolves around a toy :fp
hmm i wonder how haiyan would react if someone else got a bld wr at a comp he attended. maybe this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

this is what happens when ur life revolves around a toy :fp
hmm i wonder how haiyan would react if someone else got a bld wr at a comp he attended. maybe this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

WoW Kid+Angry German Kid+AVGN reaction=2010 WIN

 

[Dene]

Michael Phelps (who isn't the saint some people think he is)

I'm agnostic towards the main topic of this thread as I'm not involved in the speedcubing community, but I really must step in to defend Mr. Phelps here.

1)DUI when he was 19, blood alcohol content was only barely above legal limit. Apologized profusely, took responsibility for his actions, did community service.

2)Smoked weed. This actually makes him more saintly, not less.

Please get your facts straight.

I was referring to his personality (alcohol and weed...woop-de-doo. As if no one else in the world ever did those); from what I've heard, he can sometimes be a butt. Same goes for a load of others, but Phelps jumped to my head first.

All I'm saying is that just because someone is the best in the world, doesn't mean they're that great of a person. They are still great role models.

How did Tiger Woods not jump to your head first?

 

[Yes We Can!]

A lion wouldn't cheat on his wife, but a Tiger Wood(s).

 

[cubedude7]

I would have never expected that of him.
What a idiot...

 

[aznfury]

I would have never expected that of him.
What a idiot...

Hey now...it's not cool to judge other people.

 

[Sir E Brum]

Through reading the WCA's side and Haiyan's side, I am going with the WCA. The WCA's goal is to be fair to all competitors and to preserve the spirit of competitions. Haiyan's request for 2 BLD rounds seems to be a very selfish one. He even states in his "Truth about HaiYan zhuang" that one of the reasons he wanted multiple rounds is because it was expensive for him to travel and he didn't want to travel the distance for one round. The solution? Attend fewer competitions. If it is outside of your means to travel to a location, should you really be going in the first place? Also, competitions do not magically make you better. He loses nothing by not attending a competition. He does not lose any amount of skill or speed by not going. If he goes to half of the competitions he would normally go to, I am fairly certain he would perform the same as he usually does. The only thing he loses is the chance to set a new WR, but he has that chance at any competition. He seems to act as if not getting as many chances to set a world record is somehow terribly devastating.

With regards to forming the CCA and denouncing the WCA. He just seems to act if a very attention gaining and ostentatious manner if he doesn't get what he wants. What he seems to want is full control over a cubing organization. But the main one at the time rejects him. So what does he do? He lashes out in a "I'll show you" manner and, fairly mind you, states the WCA is not democratic in its selection of delegates. But why should they be? Delegates SHOULD be chosen because they are responsible individuals who will uphold the ideals of the WCA. Not because people like them. And people wonder why almost every politician turns out to have some skeletons in their closet. Because they are chosen based on a popular vote; a vote that is made based on the image they project about themselves. They tell you what they will accomplish and what needs to be done to help out the voter. But after they are elected, it seems that goes away and they turn out to be no different from anyone else. The reason the WCA needs to nominate their delegates is because they have the best idea of who will be responsible and help them in achieving their goals. When we elect someone, we trust them. We someone is nominated and chosen they are given an opportunity that comes with responsibility. The key difference is that the WCA can remove someone from a delegate position if it is necessary. Voters do not get that option, they are stuck with the person until their term is over.

None of his actions seem to be for anyone but himself. There is no benefit to anyone else to hold two rounds of BLD. With that in mind I believe the WCA is right in its actions against Haiyan Zhuang.