New Z perm?

not AS long as a PLL but slower than a U2 if you dont know what AUF you need to do. be it U, U', or U2.

It's called practice and knowing how your alg works. You are also leaving out the cube rotation you sometimes encounter when you AUF before the PLL.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

What are you going on about? That made no sense.

including AUF into the algorithm so when you do a Z perm with the corners in their solved positions then performing the algorithm with the attached AUF so you dont have to look at the cube after the algorithm to AUF wasting another second

:fp You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Here
Do "M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2"

Now do a U'

Now do the alg from before "M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2"

You see that the top layer is misaligned? Allign it. You've just AUF'd. Congrats.

i get that! but if i align the corners before performing the alg I DONT HAVE TO AUF!!!!!! atleast with an H perm
 
Yes you do AUF you idiot, you just do it before hand.

well not after performing a PLL when you are done with the cube. if you dont know which way to AUF after a PLL then you are floundering around when you should be slamming your hands down on the timer.
 
yes and i align the corners and perform a cube rotation! like i said before BAD HABIT.

That's your fault bro. Don't blame the algs or the way they are presented.

If you're floundering around then you need to practice. And eat more vegetables.
 
Yes you do AUF you idiot, you just do it before hand.

well not after performing a PLL when you are done with the cube. if you dont know which way to AUF after a PLL then you are floundering around when you should be slamming your hands down on the timer.

Personal preference.
But I think I can speak for most when I say that AUF PLL AUF is faster than AUF rotation PLL AUF. Especially considering AUF is one move.

Please, go educate yourself, learn a bit more about PLL, practice.
 
Yes you do AUF you idiot, you just do it before hand.

well not after performing a PLL when you are done with the cube. if you dont know which way to AUF after a PLL then you are floundering around when you should be slamming your hands down on the timer.

Personal preference.
But I think I can speak for most when I say that AUF PLL AUF is faster than AUF rotation PLL .

Please, go educate yourself, learn a bit more about PLL, practice.
 
Yes you do AUF you idiot, you just do it before hand.

well not after performing a PLL when you are done with the cube. if you dont know which way to AUF after a PLL then you are floundering around when you should be slamming your hands down on the timer.

Personal preference.
But I think I can speak for most when I say that AUF PLL AUF is faster than AUF rotation PLL AUF. Especially considering AUF is one move.

Please, go educate yourself, learn a bit more about PLL, practice.

I DONT AUF ROTATION PLL AUF!!! I AUF ROTATION PLL!!! no need to auf if you already did before hand....
 
Yes you do AUF you idiot, you just do it before hand.

well not after performing a PLL when you are done with the cube. if you dont know which way to AUF after a PLL then you are floundering around when you should be slamming your hands down on the timer.

Personal preference.
But I think I can speak for most when I say that AUF PLL AUF is faster than AUF rotation PLL AUF. Especially considering AUF is one move.

Please, go educate yourself, learn a bit more about PLL, practice.

I DONT AUF ROTATION PLL AUF!!! I AUF ROTATION PLL!!! no need to auf if you already did before hand....

Yes yes, I know, I edited my post long ago. Oh hey that rhymes like mister joe. Matchin' the flow, watchin' it row, like row, like row, like fight the powah, Babies in movin' traffic like busted showah...
 
Not only is joey right about learning how to recognize before PLL, but you can also recognize your AUF from one side, so look at a side that's not being moved during the last 2-3 moves of the alg.

More importantly, a small kitten is also very right: learn how your algs work and practice.

You should know how your PLL works, so you can avoid AUF + cube rotation + AUF.

Edit: Just to point out: You AUF + cube rotation, for both R perms (if you use the common algs anyway) and the Z perm have an AUF. Any alg that ends in U, U', or U2 at the end is counted as an AUF.
 
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