New Z perm?

and on the subject of OH solving: is it against the rules to straighten out the layers of the cube on the table or your chest? i dont really anymore but when i first started OH i did a lot.
 
The Z perm is awkward because it involves (at least for me) changing hand position in the middle of the algorithm.

The fastest I can do it is a little under 3 seconds.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

C1b) During the solve no other body part or any object other than the surface must touch the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.

Now I know why Kir had that "cubing discussion thread". Anyway, you can't use your chest but you can use the table.
 
I think it wouldn't be that bad if I can find a way to avoid one regrip. It could be moderately quick if there were no regrips. I don't think that it could be as fast as the M2 U alg though, people who can double flick while doing the quick slice can execute that alg in 1s or less (like the sub1 H perms).

Just request a sub15 cuber to show you their Z perm, you'll see what I mean.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.
 
You need a U2 after that only if you adjust your U layer before you execute the Z perm. You don't have to adjust. If you do then you need the U2 at the end. Or you can start the alg with a U and end with another U.

And yah, the MU alg gets very close to a 1 second execution. Some very fast people do it sub 1. Otherwise it's pretty close.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!
 
You need a U2 after that only if you adjust your U layer before you execute the Z perm. You don't have to adjust. If you do then you need the U2 at the end. Or you can start the alg with a U and end with another U.

And yah, the MU alg gets very close to a 1 second execution. Some very fast people do it sub 1. Otherwise it's pretty close.

yeah but im in the bad habit of aligning the U face then rotating the cube then performing the algorithm so i dont have to pay attention to AUF after my PLL
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

What are you going on about? That made no sense.

Nothing you say gets rid of the fact that the algs in this thread are correct, and that the AUF at the end doesn't need to be mentioned.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

Not at all. You obviously don't understand what AUF is.
 
and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

An AUF is a single move. That is nothing compared to a second PLL step. You are either suggesting that your AUF is as slow as another PLL step or that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

What are you going on about? That made no sense.

including AUF into the algorithm so when you do a Z perm with the corners in their solved positions then performing the algorithm with the attached AUF so you dont have to look at the cube after the algorithm to AUF wasting another second
 
and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

An AUF is a single move. That is nothing compared to a second PLL step. You are either suggesting that your AUF is as slow as another PLL step or that you have no idea what you're talking about.

not AS long as a PLL but slower than a U2 if you dont know what AUF you need to do. be it U, U', or U2.
 
I would say that it is still pretty uncomfortable. Try the one I posted earlier and also R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R'. With some practice you should be able to execute both algs without stopping.

dont you need a U2 after that?

PLL alg: No need to define AUF.

And I think you're doing that crap on purpose. You know what the hell I'm talking about.

i wouldnt have to if people typed their algs correctly!

Your alg was typed incorrectly at first hypocrite.
And the alg is not incorrect. The AUF doesn't need to be defined.

and i took the initiative to FIX it! and if you performed the algorithm with the corners solved then all you have to worry about is a U2 instead of having to do AUF which is like 2look PLL

What are you going on about? That made no sense.

including AUF into the algorithm so when you do a Z perm with the corners in their solved positions then performing the algorithm with the attached AUF so you dont have to look at the cube after the algorithm to AUF wasting another second

:fp You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Here
Do "M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2"

Now do a U'

Now do the alg from before "M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2"

You see that the top layer is misaligned? Allign it. You've just AUF'd. Congrats. And from that you can see that the AUF in the algorithm doesn't need to be mentioned, because it's instantly recognizable, and doesn't have any affect on what the alg does to the pieces.
 
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