Improve EOLine or start learning ZBLL

[Mewrius]

Currently I average 50s with ZZ + COLL and EPLL (compared to mid 30s with CFOP).

My EOLine is pretty horrible and was wondering if I should work on optimizing it and getting faster at performing it or work on learning ZBLL instead?

Currently it takes me 8-11 moves on average for EOLine and I remember hearing it should be no more than 9 and on average it's 6.

So which should I do?

 

[4Chan]

Eoline.

It takes an inordinate amount of time just to memorize ZBLL, and even longer to even use it fluently.

 

[Weston]

Eoline.

It takes an inordinate amount of time just to memorize ZBLL, and even longer to even use it fluently.

Wouldn't that be a reason to start it sooner?

 

[4Chan]

Ahh, I think you're right, mister Weston.

 

[uberCuber]

you should probably work on both lol
improve EOLine by actual practice solves
and ZBLL is just regular algorithm learning..just a lot more algorithms..

 

[dabmasta]

Hey, I wanted to start learning ZZ, so where can I start? I looked around, and I haven't found anything that was good (or at least to me).

 

[Jukuren]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

 

[dabmasta]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

Isn't Winter Variation just when you force the orientation of the LL edges?

 

[Jukuren]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

Isn't Winter Variation just when you force the orientation of the LL edges?

no, its when you insert your last F2L pair and it orients LL corners... the fact that he uses ZZ means the edges should already be done... thus OLL skip 100% of the time...

 

[Weston]

It isn't a skip if it isn't part of your method.

(I'm just saying this because I was ninjad heh)

 

[dabmasta]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

Isn't Winter Variation just when you force the orientation of the LL edges?

no, its when you insert your last F2L pair and it orients LL corners... the fact that he uses ZZ means the edges should already be done... thus OLL skip 100% of the time...

Well, thats pretty cool. I still need to learn EOline and the block building part, any tutorials that are good?

 

[Jukuren]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

Isn't Winter Variation just when you force the orientation of the LL edges?

no, its when you insert your last F2L pair and it orients LL corners... the fact that he uses ZZ means the edges should already be done... thus OLL skip 100% of the time...

Well, thats pretty cool. I still need to learn EOline and the block building part, any tutorials that are good?

this is the one i learned off of http://cube.crider.co.uk/

 

[dabmasta]

learn F2LL aka winter variation...

Isn't Winter Variation just when you force the orientation of the LL edges?

no, its when you insert your last F2L pair and it orients LL corners... the fact that he uses ZZ means the edges should already be done... thus OLL skip 100% of the time...

Well, thats pretty cool. I still need to learn EOline and the block building part, any tutorials that are good?

this is the one i learned off of http://cube.crider.co.uk/

Thanks man, going to get learning right away.

 

[Rpotts]

after watching an ejf2l video and reading some from the zz sight, i'm starting to want to use a new method...

 

[StachuK1992]

Do not bother with ZBLL for a long time. <_<
I suggest getting better at EOline and F2L. That's probably where your time is lost.

If you want to learn 'lots' of algs, then CLS (~100) could be really cool. (ZZ+CLS is my method of choice.

 

[jms_gears1]

imho you should learn both, learn algs as you go while improving your EOLine, they are not mutally exclusive

 

[Mewrius]

Alright, thanks for the advice guys. I guess I will work on both. I already figured out half of T's FF/BB zbll algorithms by myself.