Problem with PLL

[Johannes91]

Petrus- couple of ll looks not recommended...

What do you mean?

 

[Lofty]

U remind me of me
here r some efficient options
orient LL edges, COLL 40algs, edge perm. 4algs = 44 algs
Petrus- couple of ll looks not recommended...
ZB - one look last layer! for lazy ppl (no offense) not recommended
(I think around 700 algs)
Fridrich - Oll PLL u could just orient edges, then oll u have to learn 7 algs
then just learn 21 pll algs It's worth it
If ur really determined, u could score sub 15!

Sorry, I really don't like your list....
Petrus- I'll assume you mean the basic noob way, Sune, Niklas, Bert.. yea it doesn't take much to learn more than that.
ZB- Can't be considered lazy at all... since we are just talking about LL you have 493 minus the solved case... recommended if you want to go hardcore.
Fridrich- the number of algs is definitely reasonable and its proven to be fast.
EO COLL EP- unless you are doing Petrus I wouldn't recommend it. (EO would be skipped)
CLL/ELL loads of cases but i suppose you can break it up similar to above... for your case I wouldn't recommend it.
But if you really just want to solve and not learn algs get away from any kinda LBL method and learn Hiese or corners first (I know a guy sub 20 almost with Ortega) and if you think as the last few steps of Roux as intuitive I think you can get away with like 40 algs...

 

[Johannes91]

ZB - one look last layer! for lazy ppl (no offense) not recommended

ZB- Can't be considered lazy at all...

I think he tried to say "not recommended for lazy people", but it's quite hard to decrypt.

since we are just talking about LL you have 493 minus the solved case... recommended if you want to go hardcore.

And for those who want to learn it, I strongly recommend learning to at least mirror algs. There's really no reason to do so much extra work.

 

[Lofty]

ZB - one look last layer! for lazy ppl (no offense) not recommended

ZB- Can't be considered lazy at all...

I think he tried to say "not recommended for lazy people", but it's quite hard to decrypt.

ohh i think you are right.
*too lazy to double quote you*
Yes mirroring isn't that bad and I'm sure by the end of it I'll be much better at inversing.

 

[hait2]

Wow! So I didn't have to learn that extra 'H' permutation for the corners? Adjacent corners swap is called 'H,' right?

H swaps both opposite corners (think X shape)
or, as more commonly stated, both opposite edges (think + shape)

 

[Cubie Newbie]

I guess I need to learn my CPLL and EPLL letter names... I always thought opposite edge swap was T...

 

[JU1CYFRU1T]

I guess I need to learn my CPLL and EPLL letter names... I always thought opposite edge swap was T...

Where can I find this information? The link in the 'newbie FAQ' doesn't work (the link to cubefreak). I keep seeing CPLL and all the other xxLL terms, but I don't know what they mean. I can usually figure it out in context... but it would be easier if there was a post somewhere on this site.