new blindfolds

[Derrick Eide17]

i thought about this... how about.. two blindfolds? you pull them both down at the same time, one of your eyes, the other under the other blindfold, so you cant see a thing! seriously, what do you guys think of this?

 

[Hadley4000]

That's similar to my idea, but probably makes more sense.

 

[Derrick Eide17]

yeah i thought about something like that too yes, your idea is better if only we could have a convenient way to have the fabric covering the bottom of the Blindfold. hmmmm

 

[Hadley4000]

I know there is a better way. That was just me doing it with a sock, in under 5 minutes. I could try to sew some fabric on my blindfold, see how that works.

 

[alexc]

This thread is getting so ridiculous, lol!

@Hadley4000
That picture of you with the sock on your face made me laugh so hard!

 

[MarcusStuhr]

Guys, the easiest solution is to use something like this

http://www.daviessports.co.uk/webap...66_10551_-1_211262_52773_52751_52773_Primary_

Or just anything that actually encompasses the eye that doesn't allow for peeking.

 

[Stefan]

Gah. "Blindfold goggles". Why didn't I search for that? Not sure about the one you showed, Marcus, but here are some that look very promising:
http://www.activity-plus.co.uk/img/l//blindfold-boggles.jpg

There seems to be a soft rubber border on the back, which would be great. In larger quantities they become a lot cheaper, too:
http://www.activity-plus.co.uk/blindfold-goggles

These seem to be the same, just a different seller:
http://www.kit4trainers.co.uk/blindfold-goggles.htm

And some others...
http://www.axovus.com/goggles.html

 

[Pedro]

actually, Stefan, Tyson is already looking into those ones

Leyan asked for a sample and they'll send it (or already sent)

then indeed seem good for what we want

 

[MarcusStuhr]

Stefan: I was just providing an example -- I wasn't advocating any specific pair of goggles, but I do think using goggles would be better than standard blindfolds. Many blindfolds are incredibly easy to manipulate and peek through if you fiddle around with them, but goggles are pretty much impossible to get around.

 

[Mike Hughey]

These seem really great to me - one problem I have to deal with is that I wear glasses and don't have contacts. I have to remove my glasses before donning the blindfold in competition - at the VA Open, I removed them after the memorization phase for big cubes, but took them off before starting on 3x3x3. It slows me down on the big cubes, and with the 3x3x3 I can't see as well - it surely doesn't help. Being able to wear these over glasses is a real benefit for me.

 

[AvGalen]

I guess the search is over. So from now on we will use a timer and mat that were made for speedstacks and glasses that were made for "blind games".

The very least we could do is invent a scrambling machine before some other sport/game beats us to it

 

[andrewvo1324]

This is a pretty good idea i have,

Why dont you just get 3 pieces of wood and make a shape like:

.____
|......|

Place it on the edge of the table...They solve with the cube under the top piece of wood. I dont think you can see through wood.

 

[MarcusStuhr]

It makes for awkward solving. Much more efficient to just have a better blindfolding device worn on the face. In this case, I feel goggles would be more appropriate because there is really no way to "peek" through the bottom of a pair of goggles! Furthermore, this still allows freedom in terms of movement (that is, not forcing people to do it behind their backs, etc), and, as stated already by another member, it also allows people with glasses to compete more easily since larger goggles simply fit over your normal glasses. The point of blindfold solving is to not use the eyes -- and therefore, rendering eyes useless is the goal here. When you try to hide the cube from the eyes instead of hiding the eyes from the cube, you run into problems that cut into various comfort zones of general solving.

Goggles is by far the best option -- solves the problem at a low cost and doesn't interfere with any functions of solving other than sight, which is the idea. IMO this is really not debatable, haha. Goggles are a must!

 

[pjk]

Goggles sounds great to me. Until then though, the paper should be sufficient.

Nice to see you around Marcus.

 

[MarcusStuhr]

Likewise to you -- I've been getting back into cubing more seriously as of late.

I see you've become an admin, haha

 

[Hadley4000]

These seem really great to me - one problem I have to deal with is that I wear glasses and don't have contacts. I have to remove my glasses before donning the blindfold in competition - at the VA Open, I removed them after the memorization phase for big cubes, but took them off before starting on 3x3x3. It slows me down on the big cubes, and with the 3x3x3 I can't see as well - it surely doesn't help. Being able to wear these over glasses is a real benefit for me.

"Can be worn over glasses"

 

[Mike Hughey]

These seem really great to me - one problem I have to deal with is that I wear glasses and don't have contacts. I have to remove my glasses before donning the blindfold in competition - at the VA Open, I removed them after the memorization phase for big cubes, but took them off before starting on 3x3x3. It slows me down on the big cubes, and with the 3x3x3 I can't see as well - it surely doesn't help. Being able to wear these over glasses is a real benefit for me.

"Can be worn over glasses"

Yeah, that was my point.

 

[Hadley4000]

These seem really great to me - one problem I have to deal with is that I wear glasses and don't have contacts. I have to remove my glasses before donning the blindfold in competition - at the VA Open, I removed them after the memorization phase for big cubes, but took them off before starting on 3x3x3. It slows me down on the big cubes, and with the 3x3x3 I can't see as well - it surely doesn't help. Being able to wear these over glasses is a real benefit for me.

"Can be worn over glasses"

Yeah, that was my point.

Oh. Misread that. My bad

 

[icke]

i think skigoggles would be a good bld. it is much more comfortable then the labgoggles.
you can also cheat if you know how your stickers are. some of my stickers have little marks which could also help you with cheating.

 

[joey]

Here is a way to stop cheating, suggested by KConny and qqwref.

You have two cubes, one with Scramble applied. The other with 5-10 premoves applied, then the Scramble applied.

The competitior memorises cube 1, then picks up cube 2 and solves using that. If he has memorised correctly, and executed correctly, the judge can undo the 5-10 premoves, and the cube should be solved.

Keemy had come up with a way to do it with one cube, but I've forgotten the details, I'll make sure to ask him soon.