New to Cubing... looking for the next step

Jiggy, good post, however I noticed a few things. It's very hard to say that Petrus is the 3rd most popular, most people would agree that it's the 2nd. It's hard to acturatly determine the popularity of methods.
No, no, no, no, you misunderstand me:
Perhaps the third most popular (Not "third-most popular" but third "most popular"...if you see what I mean) speedsolving method is Petrus.
What I was trying (and failing) to say here was that there are three methods which are the most frequently used for speedsolving and that Petrus was the third I was discussing, in no particular order. It can be so hard to express your meaning on the internet some times! :p

Also, Roux CMLL takes 42 (40 + 2) algorithms, not 24.
I'm not a Roux user so I can't really say, but the reason I said 24 was because that's what it says on the Roux website:

"No need to learn 6x8=48 cases. For many of them, it's only a matter of symmetry, or applying a reverse sequence. You have to remember "only" 24 unique sequences if you want to master this step."

But, like I said, I don't speedsolve with Roux!



Jiggy, good post...
Also, this bit made me happy! :D
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i was kinda reading into a 1 look PLL... not too many more algo's... a freakin whole lot for 1 look OLL tho >.<
Jukuren, I'm going to tell you what I've been telling a lot of beginners recently: Contrary to what most speedcubers will tell you, in my opinion it is much better to learn full OLL as soon as you've finished learning full PLL.

This may seem like a daunting task with the large number of algs to learn, however, you'll soon find (I hope) yourself making good progress through them!

The reason most people will tell you to save full OLL until later in your speedsolving life is because the improvement in your time will only be of the order of a few seconds. However, if you're going to learn them later anyway, why not get them out of the way early on? It's far easier to keep going and learn full OLL while you're still in "algorithm learning mode" than it is to stop and force yourself to pick it up again at a later date. Also, by learning them early on, you have your entire speedsolving carrier to become familiar with these algs, as opposed to slowing yourself down by forcing yourself to remember one of 47 (57 OLLs - the 10 2Look algs) completely new algs.

Literally the only reason I can think of for a Fridrich user not to learn full OLL after they've learnt full PLL is because they can't be bothered with the large number, but please, please, don't be lazy! :p Stick with it and you'll be done before you know it, and (IMO) a better cuber for it! :)
 
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No, no, no, no, you misunderstand me:
Perhaps the third most popular (Not "third-most popular" but third "most popular"...if you see what I mean) speedsolving method is Petrus.
What I was trying (and failing) to say here was that there are three methods which are the most frequently used for speedsolving and that Petrus was the third I was discussing, in no particular order. It can be so hard to express your meaning on the internet some times! :p

Ahh, I get it now.

I'm not a Roux user so I can't really say, but the reason I said 24 was because that's what it says on the Roux website:

Yea, as Kirjava pointed out, not a lot of people use 24 algs. It's totally possible, but not very common...
 
I'm not a Roux user so I can't really say, but the reason I said 24 was because that's what it says on the Roux website:

Yea, as Kirjava pointed out, not a lot of people use 24 algs. It's totally possible, but not very common...
I see, I see! Just out of interest, why do people opt to use 42 algs over 24? A naive point of view would be that fewer algs is better than more. :p
 
I see, I see! Just out of interest, why do people opt to use 42 algs over 24? A naive point of view would be that fewer algs is better than more. :p

Most people do CMLL with sticker recognition, even NMCMLL can be done with sticker recognition. If you were to use mirrors and inverses, by knowing how each algorithm twists and cycles corners, you only need 24. But this takes a lot longer to recognise. Just my opinion.
 
I'm not a Roux user so I can't really say, but the reason I said 24 was because that's what it says on the Roux website:

Yea, as Kirjava pointed out, not a lot of people use 24 algs. It's totally possible, but not very common...
I see, I see! Just out of interest, why do people opt to use 42 algs over 24? A naive point of view would be that fewer algs is better than more. :p

some algs mirrored or done backwards just suck nothing to do with recognition...they just really suck.
 
HAHA wow... so kinda a bump, i was gonna post this in a new thread but i went to look at what my times were when i first got into speed solving i couldnt help but just post in here...

so almost 9 months from when i joined i got my first sub20 AO12 today!!!! (19.3ave so far single PB is 13.somethin )
i took none of your guys advice with CFOP or Roux lol but instead went ZZ
but yah hella stoked on 3x3 lately

big probs to Conrad Rider... your tutorial is freakin awesome (your my hero (second to mike hug hey :P))

cant wait to go to my first comp this year!
 
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