Bristol Spring 2010

I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.
 
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I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.
Lololol.

Not making any friends with that comment young sir.
 
My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

So... the thinking is that since a persons first ever competition they organised wasn't up to his standards then the third will be just as 'bad'? Imo the two UK Open competitions I've been to didn't noticeably have better organisation, simply a more 'official-feeling' venue.

ben1996123 said:
EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

People seem to be complaining a lot about this but they clearly don't understand just how much money actually goes into organising one of these. She gets next to no help from Rubik's, whereas the UK Open is paid for pretty much entirely by them. For UK Masters Charlie ended up paying (sth like) £80 out of her own pocket because costs weren't covered/people didn't pay up (and Bristol was a similar story).
 
My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete

He must not realize that some cubers are actually honest.

And he should know to trust David considering he is a Pokemon master who travels across the land...
 
I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.
After reading this post, I changed my mind about you, I'm glad you're not coming.

Your dad, im sorry but HOW DOES HE KNOW HOW TO ORGANISE COMPETITONS. I couldn't care less what your dad thinks.

Yes, it is bad that people who organise it generate the scrambles, but there isn't another solution yet. I also don't like what you're hinting with that.
 
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My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

Did you at least tell him that this is perfectly normal at a competition and UK Masters was orgaized very well? Well, if your dad has this opinion that doesn't mean that everyone needs to hear it. It could be hurtful for the people who worked hard to organize a good competition for competitors, including you!

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad
EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

All in all, it doesn't seem like a big problem...
 
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My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.
:D did you explain to your dad that the people who are scrambling are not competing in that round?

He seems to have formed a strong opinion from the UK Masters competition - perhaps he has some tips for the organisation of our events. Would you ask him for us?
EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.
Well, it sounds a lot to you but that's how much it costs to actually make this thing happen. Would £10 be too much for a one-day event?

If you have some great ideas of how it can be done cheaper then let's hear them. Perhaps we could publish a breakdown of the costs.
 
£20 is perfectly reasonable for a one-day competition.

Fixed.

Also, Ben: No.
Explain to your dad that he has no idea what he's talking about, and that there is a fair amount of luck involved. Also, please explain to him the absolute awesomeness that is Charlie. If he fully understands this, he will stop being a big poopie head.
 
I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

Ok, let's take this step by step.
1. I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.
After that post, I have few concerns about your attendance. You clearly have absolutely no respect for the community at all if you choose to be so rude to those who essentially are helping you to do something you enjoy. I would like to remind you that despite any internet based quarrels we have both engaged in, I have always been extremely civil to you and your father. If you recall, I even lent you puzzles at the UK Masters, which quite frankly I wish I hadn't done. You are simply undeserving of this community's kindness.

2. "My dad [...] said that he doesn't like how people that generate the scrambles compete"

You can tell your father that this is perfectly reasonable and is quite standard practice. If you had read some of my posts on this forum you would notice that I actually made the suggestion for the new WCA rules 2010 that it was always the delegate that generated the scrambles. This removes any accusations and would at least, thank goodness, put your father's mind at ease. Secondly, why shouldn't the person who has put in all the effort to allow *you* to compete be able to participate in solves. If you have a better solution, I would absolutely love to hear it and I do hope your suggestions would be put forward to the WCA.
3. UK masters organisation was bad

You are wrong. The UK Masters, which was actually your first competition out of the whole two you've ever been to, was extremely well organised. There was plenty of space, every competitor had enough time to do their solves and the delegate and Ron himself were very pleased with how things went. We didn't once overrun for an event, every WCA event, bar two, was included and hello, let's not forget this was my first competition that I'd ever organised. Although I cannot think of anything that went catastrophically badly, if there was something that really bugged you, you should have told me about it. Given your plethora of experience in this field, your suggetions for improvement would have been gratefully received.

I can see why you might think that the UK Masters wasn't as well "organised" as the UK Open, and really that is quite a stupid thing to say. Naturally, they had a much better venue, there was no entry fee, there were prize draws and things were far more relaxed. This is undoubtedly due to the hard work of the team that organised the UK Open and the fact that they naturally have far more experience than me having already organised several other competitions. I would like to know exactly why your father thinks that it was SO much better organised than the UK Masters, because he obviously knows a lot about this matter.

4. "he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me"
I'm sorry if your dad hates me. I can't say that my feelings are the same for him because I don't actually know him. He doesn't know me either, but he has been mighty hasty in forming his opinion of me. I can only assume that this is due to what you have told him. Let's get this clear. You made fake videos (now is not the time to dispute this, everyone knows) and you make stupid posts that offend people in this community. As I was one of the first to flag you for this you clearly dislike me, okay, I can understand that because you didn't want to be caught out, but it's getting ridiculous now. As I mentioned before, I continued to be civil, even friendly towards you despite several heated discussions on the internet. I'm sure your father is unaware of just how you behave online and he should realise that an adult such as myself is obviously not "out to get" you for no reason. If he really has considerable issues with me, please pass on my e-mail address, or provide me with a means of contacting him to let him know what the situation is. If he won't let you come because he specifically doesn't like competitions organised by me, then tough, because your options are limited and really, I'm not sure too many people are going to be upset about that following your recent behaviour.

5. My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

If you think somebody is going to help you travel now, you really are less switched on that we had previously assumed.
6.EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad
Once again, I ask you to reflect on your great experience of competitions and tell me exactly why this is. I'm sure everyone else that was at the competition would be ready to help you spot the lack of organisation... :fp
7.EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.
Actually Ben, it isn't. Do you realise how much it costs to hire a venue? No, evidently not. While I receive a lot of help from Seventowns (the company that is responsible for Rubik's distribution and such) in terms of materials for the competition, like timers, displays, prizes etc, I do not have any help with covering the costs of hire. This means that I need to find a good location in the city centre, which is obviously going to be expensive. On top of this I need to pay for paper, ink cartridges, drinks, snacks and all of those things that don't just magically appear. If you also read the website properly, you would see that this price might change if enough people were to come. There is absolutely no reason why I should have to pay some of my own money for an event that I organise.

Finally Ben, please tread carefully. You have already found yourself in some awkward situations on this forum and I am making the strong suggestion to you that you take note of the responses you are receiving. As you may have noticed, I have a lot of support in this matter and your juvenile, misinformed and insulting comments about this competition are not welcomed. I have continued to be civil to you, as I have already stated several times now, I would ask that you behave similarly.
 
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I may be able to come, but personally I doubt it.

My dad (who took me to masters and uk open) said that he dosent like how people that generate the scrambles compete, and that people who do that shouldnt be allowed to compete, that UK masters organisation was bad and that he hates competitions organised by Charlie Cooper so he wont take me.

My mum says I may be able to go on a train, but that just seems too expensive and impractical, so I probably wont end up going...

EDIT: Well I sorta agree with this
UK masters organisation was bad

EDIT2: £20 is too much for registration, thats just silly.

tl;dr: Charlie is a small part of the reason everyone knows I cheat so I'm making random crap up about my dad, when in reality I haven't even told him about this comp. Also, going to a comp would actually make me prove myself in a controlled environment, and I can't make it so obvious that I cheat at home.
 
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