what did YOU do when approaching sub 30?

[puzzlemaster]

A while ago my friend created some plan for all the fridrich algs...it just divided all the algs so that within 30 days (i think it was) one could memorize all the algs. However I don't like it. If anyone wants it though I can email it. I got sub 30 in one night actually. It was really odd. The night before the Upenn competition, I averaged around 30 seconds. At the competition, I got a 25 second average and a 21 second single lol. All in all, it just takes time. I was using: intuitive F2L, 2 look OLL, and 2 look PLL. For the 21 though I found an easy x-cross.

 

[GermanCube]

I usually get some sub30 times every now and then.

I use intuitive F2L and 2 Look OLL and 2 Look PLL (I know some more PLLs, I guess I should learn all 21).

 

[FatBoyXPC]

im pretty sure I AM PRETTY sure it is impossible to get sub 20 average with 4LL, thats asking for too much the best that could happen is that you get sub 30 average. (My PB is from 4ll, no PLL skip, im not sure how it happened)

So then you would also claim beginners method with 4LLL is even more so impossible? Erik Akkersdijk solving 19 second average with beginners + 4LLL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLki-254ZKA

 

[PCwizCube]

powershotman, are you trying to say that it's very possible to have sub-20 with 3LLL? i know thats possible, but...uhhh....dang, you're right. im just trying to avoid PLL's

It's possible to average sub 20 with Layer By Layer and 4LLL (above post ^^)

For Fridrich F2L, it's possible to sub 15 with 3LLL. Here's a video with an average of 14 seconds (average of 5), using mostly 2 Look OLL (3rd solve already had edges oriented, and 4th solve... well that OLL case is like the easiest and you already know the algorithm, F R U R' U' F')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EQYcuWMI1M

Well anyway, along with many other people here, I would recommend learning all of the PLL algorithms. After that, just keep on practicing execution and recognition, and you should be able to get your last layer ALWAYS under 10 seconds.

For F2L, you should start practicing looking ahead, if you don't already know what it is. Tutorial on looking ahead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfE7jYOXbgg

And if you can, post a video of some of your solves so we can give you additional tips on how to get better. And please get a good camera angle too so we can actually see what you're doing

 

[oskarasbrink]

i practiced. not posting about help on forums or caring about turning speed and switching back and forth. just practiced and maybe learned a pll or two. IMO that the fastest way
but you should use F2l and 4-look LL at least

 

[dillonbladez]

i watched your video rubik's cube fan nice tutorial. and ummm yeah, im gonna make myself do a half hour of metronome training and learn 2-3 algs a day. how does the plan sound to you?

 

[Edward]

i watched your video rubik's cube fan nice tutorial. and ummm yeah, im gonna make myself do a half hour of metronome training and learn 2-3 algs a day. how does the plan sound to you?

lolno

How does it sound for you? Is it a little fast for you, a little slow. Too hard?
You shouldn't let others decide your pace IMO.

 

[Thomas09]

With 4LLL sub 30 just seemed to go past. Now, sub 20 is a bit of a challenge.

 

[PCwizCube]

i watched your video rubik's cube fan nice tutorial. and ummm yeah, im gonna make myself do a half hour of metronome training and learn 2-3 algs a day. how does the plan sound to you?

Thanks And I guess that sounds good. If you are able to do that much, then go for it. But make sure you don't forget the algorithms you learn.

Also for the looking ahead, you should know that when you do those practice techniques, it's meant to improve your F2L technique. It's not directly used for improving your times. You use those practice methods to first get your technique good, and once you get good at turning slow and looking ahead, then you will start to get good times. Just clearing this up, because a lot of people have come to me and said, "oh I did this and this and my times didn't get good!" (after like 1 day). It takes a long time to get good at turning slow and looking ahead. This is something pretty important that I forgot to say in the video :fp

 

[CitricAcid]

OK, This Is What I Did:
-Started Hunting For A Good Cube. (Still Not Done... :fp)
-Practice F2L ALOT. AND I MEAN ALOT.
-Learn 2LOOL and 2LPLL
-Practice. Get to Sub-20 Average.
------------------------------------- (This is where I stop, I'm still working my way down the rest of the list.)
-Shoot for 1LPLL.
-Practice.
-POSSIBLY (not necessary) shoot for 1LOLL, but that will take a while.
-Go be awesome.

 

[dillonbladez]

i know F2L is gonna take a long time. but i practice... alot. AND I MEAN ALOT at least during the holidays. i practice like 5 hours a day. my times are very inconsistent though. what should i do about that?

 

[zster007]

Ya, I average around 25 seconds, and i use 4LLL, and I'm just starting to learn full PLL.

 

[CitricAcid]

5 Hours A Day?!?!?!?!?!

Wow!

Anyway,
I would work on the certain cases in slots that slip you up.

Like say, a flipped edge.
Try to formulate a better way to fix that,
then practice it until it's fast.

 

[dillonbladez]

how??? i'm still flabbergasted when people average under 30, yet only know 4LLL!


edit:


5 hours a day.... during holidays and weekends. i think im sane, but only sometimes. other times i think im a freak

 

[nlCuber22]

5 Hours A Day?!?!?!?!?!

Wow!

Anyway,
I would work on the certain cases in slots that slip you up.

Like say, a flipped edge.
Try to formulate a better way to fix that,
then practice it until it's fast.

Most people would just use an algorithm.

 

[CitricAcid]

5 Hours A Day?!?!?!?!?!

Wow!

Anyway,
I would work on the certain cases in slots that slip you up.

Like say, a flipped edge.
Try to formulate a better way to fix that,
then practice it until it's fast.

Most people would just use an algorithm.

That works too.

 

[dillonbladez]

i do have ways... but they involve F moves. everyone hates those.

 

[JTW2007]

everyone hates those.

Really? I was not aware.

I learned full PLL at about 35 avg. and I've just worked on intuitive F2L ever since.

 

[dillonbladez]

Full Pll seems like alot. so much it's scary. don't even mention OLL

 

[kjcellist]

When I got sub-30, I was using intuitive F2L and 3LLL.

And I probably learned full PLL with a 45 second average... I was very impatient... and I learned them in the course of like 4 days. But then again I was on a car trip and I was so bored and had nothing better to do.