New Corner Orientation Method. Serious Speed Method.

[LewisJ]

Or you could solve the last slot and the last layer all in one algorithm.

You've got to be kidding...

 

[blah]

Or you could solve the last slot and the last layer all in one algorithm.

4665600 algs.

 

[rubiknewbie]

Or you could solve the last slot and the last layer all in one algorithm.

Or you can solve the cube in one algorithm

 

[aronpm]

Only 4665600 algs? Might as well go with F3L then.

 

[Davepencilguin]

I had posted a bit about this a few days ago here:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17142

However, if someone were to come up with a nice, fancy commuter method to orient the corners that had an easy recognition.....

 

[4Chan]

Oh! I see you've started ZB?

I wish you the best of luck sir.
Stick to it, the hardest part is when you're half way done.
It gets hard. x_x

 

[Davepencilguin]

Oh! I see you've started ZB?

I wish you the best of luck sir.
Stick to it, the hardest part is when you're half way done.
It gets hard. x_x

Thank you very much. So far the T-set has had some very nice algorithms... I can only hope it stays that way xD

 

[4Chan]

Ohhh no, it gets BETTER.

H set is sooo good.
Sune set with all corners correct is sooooooo good.
L also has a few good ones.

Sorry for the off topic clutter. )';

 

[miniGOINGS]

Your name is Matt

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Davepencilguin]

I name this the COM method, for Corner Orientation Method (CO would end up with COLL ), as I can't say my real name here

Your name is Matt

lol

 

[guitardude7241]

how do you generate cases with cube explorer to place the already made f2l pair and orient corners ONLY?

 

[miniGOINGS]

how do you generate cases with cube explorer to place the already made f2l pair and orient corners ONLY?

Use this.

 

[4Chan]

Right click to gray out the pieces that you dont care about.

 

[guitardude7241]

Right click to gray out the pieces that you dont care about.

i did that. it don't work.

but cubesolver works.

this method balls.

 

[rachmaninovian]

if all else fails, use ron's cube solver.

 

[sz35]

There is already a veriation of ZZ(called ZZ-C) which is pretty much this but it keeps the EO so you insert the pair from any case and orient corners (1020 algs as blah said) and then use PLL.
This was copied from wiki:

ZZ-c: The last layer corners are oriented during insertion of the last F2L block. This system is similar to using Winter Variation, but can be applied to any last block situation and uses many more algorithms. Conceptually, the comparison of ZZ-c with ZZ-WV, is similar to the comparison of ZBF2L with VH.

But still,good idea.

 

[ostracod]

I use WV with ZZ, and I have (re)memorized all the algorithms (I took a long break from the cube, and so I had to refresh myself over 2 weeks). Should I go on to learn MGLS? And are WV, MGLS, and WV + MGLS all subsets of the ZZ-c variation? I would appreciate advice.

I've also considered the "summer" variation (R U R' case, another 27 algorithms), but I don't think it's worth it since its algorithms are longer than those of WV. Is the summer variation a subset of ZZ-c as well?

 

[Escher]

I use WV with ZZ, and I have (re)memorized all the algorithms (I took a long break from the cube, and so I had to refresh myself over 2 weeks). Should I go on to learn MGLS? And are WV, MGLS, and WV + MGLS all subsets of the ZZ-c variation? I would appreciate advice.

I've also considered the "summer" variation (R U R' case, another 27 algorithms), but I don't think it's worth it since its algorithms are longer than those of WV. Is the summer variation a subset of ZZ-c as well?

Yes.
Summer & Winter Variation and CLS are all subsets of ZZ-c.
You should definitely learn CLS. Using mirrors cuts down a very considerable number of algorithms, as does using inverses.

 

[guitardude7241]

if the CE pair is already paired, how many cases would there be to learn?

 

[Cuber3]

I might have made some major mistake somewhere, so if someone finds it, please feel free to correct me, but for now...

Each of these 6 LS cases have 8 different COMLS cases that follow, thanks to an amazing technique called AUF:

The other 36 LS cases have 27 COMLS cases each.

That's 6*8+36*27 = 1020 COMLS cases. If you can really learn this many algs, you might as well go for 1LLL. Seriously.

And 1020 is just COMLS - we're not even at COMLL yet.

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The only reason this idea has never been mentioned is because most people who have come up with it have probably got these figures themselves. I had this idea about a year ago, which is exactly what qqwref said.

Just wondering, how are there 27 COMLS cases for each of the remaining 36?

Edit: There must be something I'm really missing here...

Edit: Okay, I got it now... I'm slow...