Someone learns ZB??

Well, my goal is ZB, though I am at the moment trying to first get sub-20. I know extended VHF2L (standard 32 algs + 16 otherwise tricky cases) and all of COLL. I have also started generating algs and images and started a document with all the algs I have made so far. I have not made any real effort to remember the algs yet.

I actually am able to recognize the ZB cases when performing a COLL. I just have issues with Anti-Sune, Pi, and H. When the time comes I'll figure out some sort of recognition system.
 
eastamazonantidote said:
Well, my goal is ZB, though I am at the moment trying to first get sub-20. I know extended VHF2L (standard 32 algs + 16 otherwise tricky cases) and all of COLL. I have also started generating algs and images and started a document with all the algs I have made so far. I have not made any real effort to remember the algs yet.

I actually am able to recognize the ZB cases when performing a COLL. I just have issues with Anti-Sune, Pi, and H. When the time comes I'll figure out some sort of recognition system.
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Yes, I also can recogniz the ZB case while I'm recognizing COLL for all 8 cases!!
and what 16 algs you know? can you give me the numbers of the cases and the ZBF2L page you learned from?
 
Yes, I also can recogniz the ZB case while I'm recognizing COLL for all 8 cases!!
and what 16 algs you know? can you give me the numbers of the cases and the ZBF2L page you learned from?[/QUOTE]

I'll just give you them all:

VHF2L.Algorithms.pdf

COLL.Algorithms.pdf

Those VH cases are really a pain if you pair up first, so I decided to expand the system to encompass all otherwise non-efficient cases.

The COLL page could have some mistakes in it. I haven't looked at it for a long time.
 
I remember Chris Hardwick doing some ZB solves. I don't remember anyone using full ZB though.
 
sz35 said:
I'm now learning ZB (ZBF2L= 114 algs and ZBLL= around 30) and I want to know if there is someone else who learns ZB right now.(besides cubes=life)
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I know you know all ZBLLs I asked because it's obvious that you use ZB!!!
and another question to you: why you learned ZBLL before ZBF2L???
 
I was hinting at Nitrocan. d:

Because. ZBF2L is more of a concept, less so of braindead rote memorization.
ZBF2L = Slotting in a specific way and forming F2L in a specific way to accomplish the means. You can memorize the way the slot is formed much faster than memorizing and algorithm.

ZBLL is super hard, and makes ZBF2L seem really easy.
 
nitrocan said:
I'm confused because of your signature. ZBLL is 41 algorithms?
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If it's 41 algorithms everyone would have learnt it by now and there won't be OLL and PLL :D

I think it's like in 50+ OLL algorithms, there is a subset of 7 algorithms, each of which can be expanded into around 6 COLL algorithms giving around 40 total algorithms, each of which can be expanded into a few ZBLL algorithms giving a total of hundreds of algorithms.

COLL = 7 OLL x ~6 = around 40 algorithms
ZBLL = 40 COLL algorithms x some number = hundreds of algorithms
 
PLL subset is 21.
T, U, L, Pi, Sune, Antisune sets are 72 each.
And the rest are in H set.

In total, 490-ish algs.
But like other algorithms, can be reduced.
 
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