Road to ZB: Which way to go

[Spitfire97]

I am done learning the 2GLL cases for ZZLL( 2 opposite edges permuted)
Which isnt much(about 25) and I know about 40 others for ZBLL(edges permuted any way)
Should I learn COLL before learning the rest of ZZLL then move onto Full ZB?
or
Learn The rest Of 2GLL (= 20),
learn COLL, then begin ZBLL ( with Mirrors)

Oh and for the 2gLL cases I know ATM I have all RU algs
If you want algs PM me and Ill make a site

 

[eastamazonantidote]

I highly recommend COLL, but you may as well finish the 2GLL algs if you're that far already. Just wait for Cubes=Life to show up before you actually make any decisions.

I'm sure many people would love to have a site of algs for more advanced methods, so go for it. If you want my list of COLL algs (some are a bit unique though most are rather standard), PM me and I'll send it over.

 

[mr.onehanded]

I have no idea what any of this is, but if you learn coll you can apply it to 2x2, so you might want to keep that in mind when deciding.

 

[Cyrus C.]

Yea, I think a site would be a good idea. Even though I probably wouldn't use it, I'm sure there are many people who would. Like said before you should wait for Cubes=Life's response before deciding.

 

[Spitfire97]

yeah chris's opinion would be nice althugh he might say use mirrors

 

[4Chan]

Oh god, COLL fails for 2x2
So many wasted turns. D:

2GLL cases are soooo nice!
Maybe we recognize the cases differently, but um, when 2 edges are permuted, then like, you can only have 2-cycles of edges. Ummm, all of my 2GLL cases are 3-cycles? :confused:

You should go with COLL because of the recognition factor.
Just learn whatever you want to however you want to.

Though, I would advise learning subset by subset, and taking it a little slow.
Rushing is bad. D:

EDIT: For someone who wants to learn ZBLL, my personal advice is to go by difficulty of set:
H -> T -> U -> L -> Pi -> Sune/Anti-Sune.

Sune and Anti Sune are exact mirrors of eachother, So if you know one, you can solve the other while learning algs for the other one. (If you want that is.)

 

[Spitfire97]

Z perm H perm and the all edges solve all technically have 2 opposite permuted edges If you disregard corners
I found your Intuitive H case 2gll tutorial Ill use that for the ZB cases(diagonally permuted edges). Ill start COLL should be able to finish in about 2 months If I take it slow

 

[4Chan]

Hmmm, I wonder what recognition system you're using.
I (used to) line up the UFR corner with the right sides, and look at the edge cycle.

It sounds like youre recognizing like OCELL, which is logical since you said ZZLL earlier.

 

[Spitfire97]

not sure but I recognize by either lining up 1 corner with its centers or the exact opposite centers so Its 1 move to AUF everytime

 

[Kian]

I have no idea what any of this is, but if you learn coll you can apply it to 2x2, so you might want to keep that in mind when deciding.

You should really just stop there. When you don't know what kind of advice to give, don't feel obligated to give it. Not only does it have nothing to do with his question, but it's flat out bad advice. Using COLL in place of CLL is a giant waste.

On Topic: I don't see why you wouldn't learn COLL before attempting ZB. Seems like a good first step not just for knowledge of the algs, but for practicing more developed recognition.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I have no idea what any of this is, but if you learn coll you can apply it to 2x2, so you might want to keep that in mind when deciding.

You should really just stop there. When you don't know what kind of advice to give, don't feel obligated to give it. Not only does it have nothing to do with his question, but it's flat out bad advice. Using COLL in place of CLL is a giant waste.

I agree with you, but the recognition would be the same.