US Nationals 2010

I would love to have it in Texas....Houston...Austin...Dallas

Those are the three Texas cities that have had competitions, so who is this anyway? lol.
I'm assuming you'll be at our Austin competition next week, if not, it's stupid for you to even be thinking about Nationals next year.

Hope to see you there.
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.

yeah but besides the fact there was just one in california so maybe we could have one on the east coast. and why are you arguing you go to MIT, right?
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.

yeah but besides the fact there was just one in california so maybe we could have one on the east coast. and why are you arguing you go to MIT, right?
He was merely pointing out your flawed statement.

Anyway, Tim's a baller, I'm sure he'll be at US Nats regardless of where it's at. :)
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.

You're mistaken. Obviously only east coast cubers want to attend nationals.
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.

You're mistaken. Obviously only east coast cubers want to attend nationals.

I lol'd quite thoroughly.
Hahaha
 
Chuck E. Cheese anyone? ;)

In all seriousness though, if it's easiest to set this up in California, then let's set it up in California. Problem solved. It seems there is still some talk of New York, but based on past experience the Nationals competitions in California were well run, so why not have them there again?

You people do realize that the Sport Stacking World Competition is held in the same place, Denver, Colorado every year right? Why is it a bad thing if Nationals is in California again? Can someone please explain this to me, because I surely don't get it.

Chris

P.S. Actually I was kidding on Chuck E. Cheese. I think it should be held in Barrow, Alaska, because Alaska is shaped like a heart and we all <3 cubing. Also, Barrow is a cool name for a city.
 
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Chuck E. Cheese anyone? ;)

In all seriousness though, if it's easiest to set this up in California, then let's set it up in California. Problem solved. It seems there is still some talk of New York, but based on past experience the Nationals competitions in California were well run, so why not have them there again?

You people do realize that the Sport Stacking World Competition is held in the same place, Denver, Colorado every year right? Why is it a bad thing if Nationals is in California again? Can someone please explain this to me, because I surely don't get it.

Chris

Yeah, I honestly don't care where it is either, as long as Chris is able to come :3

I figure its not going to be in KC, so I am going to have to travel a lot no matter where it is.
 
green chili
That sounds disgusting...

In all seriousness though, if it's easiest to set this up in California, then let's set it up in California. Problem solved.
There is still more to consider than just how easy it is to set up though. Nearby attractions, for example - like David/blade, the organizational team might want to travel because of this. It'd be nice to do some sightseeing or have other semiorganized not-cubing-related-off-the-venue activities.
 
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no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

For everybody? I think that most of the California people would disagree that it's easier for them to go to New York than California.

yeah but besides the fact there was just one in california so maybe we could have one on the east coast. and why are you arguing you go to MIT, right?
He was merely pointing out your flawed statement.

Anyway, Tim's a baller, I'm sure he'll be at US Nats regardless of where it's at. :)

Tim [Reynolds] IS baller.
 
no we need one on the east coast prefferbly north east maybe like New York City or Newark somewhere in New York New Jersey Conneticut area. it is easiest place for everybody who wants to come

I'm assuming you read the entire thread where NY was discussed. The thing about Nationals is that it needs to be a bigger venue that we have for multiple days. New York is really really expensive to get a venue. If you seriously want it in New York, do some legwork and see if you can find a venue (and by that I mean checking prices yourself, not just rattling off a bunch of things you have no idea what they code). This applies to anyone.

Or my second choice would be Bismarck, North Dakota.

If you want me to do a preliminary check, I can. Like Socorro, this will ensure that only the dedicated are there, instead of the noobs who will only go if it's in their backyard. And it's probably a new travel destination for everyone except myself. Since it's in Bismarck, we could probably get the governor to show up, then we'd have one more judge.

and why are you arguing you go to MIT, right?

Because Tim's mature enough to not push to have it convient for him, but what's good for everyone.
 
Or my second choice would be Bismarck, North Dakota.

If you want me to do a preliminary check, I can. Like Socorro, this will ensure that only the dedicated are there, instead of the noobs who will only go if it's in their backyard. And it's probably a new travel destination for everyone except myself. Since it's in Bismarck, we could probably get the governor to show up, then we'd have one more judge.
Like I said earlier, I'm happy with Socorro (although we do want to watch out for those golf balls from the "golf course") - I have relatives nearby!

I'd also love Bismarck - I want to eventually travel to all 50 states, and the state that is the most trouble coming up with a justification to visit is definitely North Dakota, so it's nice because it would get me there.
 
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There are of course several factors to be considered. It is of course a very clear phenomenon that many people on this forum who say something along the lines of "Let's do it at X, we can do it at Y" really are just immature little kids who don't know any better and really are only considering the relative convenience for themselves. Anyway, the advantages of Stanford last year?

-The organizational team is based out of California. This means in general, fewer plane tickets to buy, and more people are able to make the trip and help out.
-Stanford was a free venue. I grew up in that area, I know people, and it's easy for me to make things happen, strike deals, etc.

But honestly, there were a few problems.

-The organizational team being based out of California means there was significantly less consideration given to transportation. I just kind of *assumed* we'd have enough cars to get people around places and this was actually not nearly as trivial as I was hoping for it to be.
-This lack of consideration for transportation made it harder for everyone else who was traveling as well.
-Because the team was based out in California, and the team was so large, we did not find a single place for everyone to stay. Instead, people were split between my home in Burlingame, Leyan's apartment in Sunnyvale, Stanford campus, and a hotel in Redwood City. That was a bit of a mess.
-And because of that, there wasn't as much socializing from our side.
-And people like Dan Dzoan didn't take the Monday off work to travel. Meaning on Sunday he just had to go home, and couldn't "socialize."

In terms of moving nationals around, it is an opportunity to do a few things.

-Yes, it's a travel experience for us. I mean, what's a summer vacation if you're not getting mugged in a bathroom?
-It's a lot of fun to see new places.

Another new aspect of nationals that has come under consideration for me is the ability to engaged new groups. The team in California is very good, and we've worked together for quite some time on these types of projects, but there are good dedicated groups of organizers all around the country. And so, some collaboration could be very beneficial. Jim Mertens, for example, has been quite dedicated to us over the years. It would be a good collaborative effort to do something with him in his area. The Texas group has accomplished a lot, and so has Tim Reynolds.

*It is unlikely that there would be a competition in NYC because most of the kids in the Tri-State area are just whiny little brats that want to competition in their area, but aren't willing to do any work.

I actually intend to do something new, or at least start something new. I am currently looking into locations for 2010, and I will probably stay late at work to call and try to actually book the venue, and secure a deal with the hotel. But my new idea?

Let's say we hold Nationals in location X. I intend to work with another group to hold a competition in Location Y the same year, as a practice run for nationals the NEXT year. This local group might be my own in California, in which case it wouldn't be necessary because I have experience with them. But let's say MIT wanted consideration for nationals in 2011. We would then host a competition at MIT in 2010 at some point, and try to make it a large competition.

So yeah, if you want nationals in your area for 2011, get to work for 2010.

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SOCORRO!
 
Why is there this need for an organization team? I can understand needing a handful of dedicated people to plan the entire weekend, but after that, you have access to all the competitors and families to help execute the competition. Just do like they did at worlds where people can volunteer ahead of time to help, and you give them the schedule of when they are judging and scrambling.

Trying to arrange this in a city where you have some large number of volunteers seems unnecessary.

I am not American, so i won't offer any suggestion on location. I will most likely come regardless of where it is. But i will say that New Mexico is one of my favorite states. Very beautiful.
 
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