3-cycle challenge

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Can you (or is it not possible) to make a corner or edge 3-cycle on the (3x3x3) cube with solely halfturns?? That means only <U2,D2,F2,B2,R2, L2> turns are allowed.

Per
 
I think I have an answer.

But just to be sure, is it the same as asking "is it possible to cycle (URB ULF DRF) or (UF UB DF) with only half turns?"
 
Can you (or is it not possible) to make a corner or edge 3-cycle on the (3x3x3) cube with solely halfturns?? That means only <U2,D2,F2,B2,R2, L2> turns are allowed.

Per

I know half of the answer, but I'd rather not say anything yet. I think I know the other half of the answer, but I'm not 100% certain on a proof of impossibility / example algorithm for a cycle (so as not to give it away).

Chris
 
Oh wow, Stefan already weighed in. Well, before checking his spoilers let me post my own.

Edges: R2 F2 R2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U2
As for corners I think it's impossible, but I don't have a proof for this. Also, if it is possible I don't have an algorithm for this either.

@Stefan after reading his spoilers: Your corner argument hardly counts as a proof sir ;-) How could we make this rigorous?
 
Your corner argument hardly counts as a proof sir ;-)
I know, but I didn't call it proof and Per also didn't ask for one. But yeah, I'm not happy with it. You can tell a riddle is good if I answer but have to cheat.
How could we make this rigorous?
I'd say by understanding the corner constraints. I never understood Jaap's "total twist of each tetrad is fixed", that's the part I'm missing.
 
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Corners in half turn 3x3 keep in two orbits, so a 3-cycle must be in one of those orbits. There is really only one 'distinct' 3-cycle, i.e. UFL-UBR-DFR. However this creates at least one face where exactly one corner is wrong. From examining the possible states of a 2x2 with half turns only we know this is impossible. Hence we cannot do a corner 3-cycle with half turns only.
 
You can just look at them all - there aren't very many. We only have to take into account the bottom and top faces. For each position there are essentially only 4 possible turns (F2, R2, U2 F2, U2 R2) so it is easy to check that we have found all possible ones:
1) Solved; this always goes to 2.
2) Two bars of opposite color on each side (all bars pointing in the same direction); this goes to 1 for one of the turns, to 3 for one other, and to 2 for the other two.
3) A checkerboard on each side, with UFR and DFR stickers having the same color; this always goes to 2.

As you can see these are the only possible cases, so it is not possible to get exactly one sticker wrong on one face of a 2x2 by using only half turns (and similarly you can't get exactly one corner sticker wrong on one face of a 3x3 using only half turns).
 
From examining the possible states of a 2x2 with half turns only we know this is impossible.
I don't. Can you describe that examination?

The easiest way to see this is as follows:
The four vertices of the U corner pieces will always remain in a flat plane, be it one of the faces or a diagonal through the cube. Half turns will never break up this plane, and this is trivial to check.
A three-cycle will involve one or two of these corners, and so will break up this plane, and is therefore not possible with half turns.
 
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