speedsolving V-cubes

[shicklegroober]

Heyyyy,

I haven't been on this forum in quite sometime and I'm sorry if there is already a thread regarding these questions I did search and was unable to find it. So sorry in advance and if this is in the wrong spot will a mod please put it in the right place.

anyway, I recently got the v-cube collection and I've been working on the 7x7 mostly, does anybody have any suggestions where to find more advanced ways of solving the centers and pairing the last edges? I've watched a few youtube videos, one by dantheman something or other on advanced edge pairing just wondering if there is anything more to look at or learn from? Any advice is appreciated, I just want to cut my times on the 7x7 and learn how to do it more efficiently.

Thanks!
-Ryan

 

[JTW2007]

What kind of edge pairing do you use right now?

 

[shicklegroober]

I believe its the freestyle method, where there are a bunch of bars on the four centers and you store the first 8 edge pairs in the top and bottom layers

 

[LNZ]

I am really hopless when it comes to edge paring as I'm doomed to average 5 edge pairs a minute forever but I have learned a fast method to solve the last two centres of a big cub like a 7x7.

Get as close as you can in finishing the last two 5x5 centres of a 7x7 cube. Then use commutators to do the rest.

Top row of outer 5x5 block (from the centre) on a 7x7 centre.

Moving columns 2,3,4: A(up) U r U' A(down) U r' U'

Moving columns 5,6: A(up) U' l' U A(down) U' l U

Top row of outer 3x3 block (from the centre) on a centre of a 7x7 cube.

Moving columns: 3,4: A(up) U (Column 5)(up) U' A(down) U (Column 5)(down) U'

A=Action column. Allign both top and front cubie in the same orientation. All other positions can be obtained from rotating both the top and front sides, so we only need to know these cases.

 

[shicklegroober]

LNZ:
Thank you very much, I found a video on youtube about that commutator and have been using it, however it still doesn't seem very efficient; at least for me. Have you heard of or seen any other ways for solving the centers. Does anyone have any tips for improving recognition of which center pieces go where? I find myself looking over the whole cube at least once sometimes two or three times just to find one or two center pieces

 

[ben1996123]

Im really sorry, but I dont have any tips at all. I just solve the 7x7 intuitevely.

 

[CharlieCooper]

Im really sorry, but I dont have any tips at all. I just solve the 7x7 intuitevely.

Excellent contribution Ben

For the centres at first I did bars of 5 and put them all together, then after spending some time at Arnaud's house I realised that actually his way was much better. The idea is to kind of spiral out. Start by making a centre like 5x5 centres, so 3x3, then make an additional outer centre 1x3 block, which you slot in next to the "5x5" centre. Then make two 1x4 blocks to place either side of that, then make one final 1x5 block. I'm really not the person to speak about edge pairing, I just do 5x5 twice, but the centres are pretty fast that way.

 

[Jake Gouldon]

I use the 1x5 bars for all centres, and finish with a commutator. I use freeslice for the first 8 edges, then freestyle the last 4.

 

[JLarsen]

I use the 1x5 bars for all centres, and finish with a commutator. I use freeslice for the first 8 edges, then freestyle the last 4.

Exactly.

 

[shicklegroober]

rad thanks everyone

 

[StachuK1992]

Im really sorry, but I dont have any tips at all. I just solve the 7x7 intuitevely.

Why the hell would you post if you can't offer advice.

That's like me joining a band and not knowing how to play anything, or filling out a blank survey. It's stupid. I've seen you do it elsewhere as well. Stop it.

Also, if you are going to post without a purpose, you might as well check your spelling and grammar.


Topic-starter:
If you are using freestyle right now, that will take you far, as that is how many top cubers solve big cubes.
To solve more efficiently, I try to look for multiple 'groupings' at once, so in case one piece is in a hard-to-find location, when I see an easier piece, I don't waste time looking for the other.

 

[Muesli]

I use some crazy slow technique that involves me solving each individual quedge(?) on its own. Could anybody link me to a Freeslice tutorial? It sounds cool.

Yes I did use the search bar, and it came up with nothing.

 

[shicklegroober]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzn1nYtseXo

not the best teacher/most descriptive but I got the gist of it pretty quickly

 

[Muesli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzn1nYtseXo

not the best teacher/most descriptive but I got the gist of it pretty quickly

Sweet. Thankyee.

 

[shicklegroober]

word nerd!

 

[LNZ]

I got the idea of commutator centre solving of a 7x7 by a "lancetheblueknight" Youtube video. I then spent many hours on a real V7 to get all the other cases described. It has worked. My first 7x7 solve took me 13 hours. Now is down to 28:30.

And using Gabbasoft and the fully developed 7x7 method as a guide, extended the idea to any two centres of an NxNxN cube.

I want to try a 9x9 cube when it comes out. I'd prefer if it was an authentic V9.