Blindsolving Failure Thread

[ben1996123]

First ever attempt at 3x3 bld:

Took about 20 minutes, and before I started, there was 1 corner solved, and no edges, then I typed out my solution on a computer, then once I did the solution, I actually scrambled it more! (I know it sounds like the words of a noob) After, I had no pieces solved at all!

 

[wrbcube4]

Memorized the edges correctly but didn't know what was wrong with the corners until I solved the edges.

 

[wrbcube4]

I got ANOTHER one for you. Two flipped corners and two flipped edges!!! Todays count... 0 for 3.

 

[wrbcube4]

I got ANOTHER one for you. Two flipped corners and two flipped edges!!! Todays count... 0 for 3.

It happened AGAIN!

 

[Novriil]

First ever attempt at 3x3 bld:

Took about 20 minutes, and before I started, there was 1 corner solved, and no edges, then I typed out my solution on a computer, then once I did the solution, I actually scrambled it more! (I know it sounds like the words of a noob) After, I had no pieces solved at all!

we've all been there. I couldn't BLD for a long time.. but it's actually quite easy.. it's all about the memo system.. how do You memo it and how well is the memo in You're head. I used colors first letter for a few days and then I started to use same method as my friend.. one letter.. You can see my memo in my previous post right before Yours..

and bytheway wrbcube4 you can edit you're posts. so please don't TRIPLE-post again... double post is okay sometimes but when you have no reason to bump then don't TRIPLE-post or then don't even double-post

//and also I know how to BLD a long time and on a comp I still got only one successful BLD solve.

 

[Mike Hughey]

AAAARRRGGGHHH!

5x5BLD DNF, 4 corners misoriented...

I'm getting soooooo close... I really have to start using BH corners, so I can memo them last, solve them first. I still memo them visually...

Wow - close! How fast was it?

You know you don't have to use BH corners to memo last, solve first, right? I did that even when I was using 3OP. The catch is just that you have to use center-safe algorithms. It shouldn't be hard for you to find a few you can use to do your current method with, with some minor modifications.

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

The time was 41:37.71.

I use Classic Pochmann corners now, what I do is:

1. Memo Edgecenters
2. Memo 4x4centers
3. Review both
4. Memo centrals
5. Quick review of everything
6. Memo wings
7. Review all
8. Memo corners
9. Review all

10. Solve first 4 (or if possible 8) items of corners (4 y-perms keeps centers intact)
11. Solve edgecenters
12. Solve 4x4centers
13. Solve centrals
14. Solve wings
15. Solve remaining corners

The problem is that I can't solve corners first with Classic Pochmann, because if I have parity, the U-face will be twisted (anti)clockwise, because of an odd number of swaps on both centrals and corners.

Of course I can do the highest even number of items I have for corners, but that's not entirely corners first solving, is it?

 

[MatsBergsten]

AAAARRRGGGHHH!

5x5BLD DNF, 4 corners misoriented...

I'm getting soooooo close... I really have to start using BH corners, so I can memo them last, solve them first. I still memo them visually...

Wow, that's close. You are really into big bld now!!
You can start doing 5bld too in the weeklies, so we can compare dnf:s
I've only had one success of the last 20, that is so bad.

 

[Slash]

The time was 41:37.71.

I use Classic Pochmann corners now, what I do is:

1. Memo Edgecenters
2. Memo 4x4centers
3. Review both
4. Memo centrals
5. Quick review of everything
6. Memo wings
7. Review all
8. Memo corners
9. Review all

10. Solve first 4 (or if possible 8) items of corners (4 y-perms keeps centers intact)
11. Solve edgecenters
12. Solve 4x4centers
13. Solve centrals
14. Solve wings
15. Solve remaining corners

The problem is that I can't solve corners first with Classic Pochmann, because if I have parity, the U-face will be twisted (anti)clockwise, because of an odd number of swaps on both centrals and corners.

Of course I can do the highest even number of items I have for corners, but that's not entirely corners first solving, is it?

I think you should solve the centers first, then the corners. I do this at 4x4BLD, and it works well(I memorize corners with numbers, not visually)

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

But that still requires me to put the corners in my long term memory, because centers on a 5x5 take pretty long already

I'll just stay with what I'm doing now, until I can really use BH corners, that will really speed up my solves I think.

 

[DavidWoner]

The problem is that I can't solve corners first with Classic Pochmann, because if I have parity, the U-face will be twisted (anti)clockwise, because of an odd number of swaps on both centrals and corners.

That's easy.

Corners
U
Solve centers
U'
midges/wings
done.

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

Oh, thanks David! That's a great idea! I'll try to use that. Now I just have to hope I don't forget undoing the U*

 

[Chuck]

Ugh, had my first 4 DNFs in a row on 5x5x5 BLD. It's painful

I memorized them in 15 minutes average, I found it easier to memorize the + centers than the x centers. Gosh, 5x5x5 BLD makes 4x4x4 BLD feels really simple.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Ugh, had my first 4 DNFs in a row on 5x5x5 BLD. It's painful

I memorized them in 15 minutes average, I found it easier to memorize the + centers than the x centers. Gosh, 5x5x5 BLD makes 4x4x4 BLD feels really simple.

I've always found the + centers to be easier to solve than the X centers, although I never really noticed a difference memorizing. Anyway, keep at it - I'm sure you'll start hitting them soon. Were any of them close?

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

That's really strange, for me the + centers have always been the hardest pieces to solve! Maybe that's because I have close to no experience with them
I have to practise 5x5BLD more

 

[Mike Hughey]

That's really strange, for me the + centers have always been the hardest pieces to solve! Maybe that's because I have close to no experience with them
I have to practise 5x5BLD more

I actually thought the + centers were easier than the X centers almost as soon as I started doing 5x5x5 BLD. And I had been doing 4x4x4 BLD for a couple of months before I started 5x5x5 BLD, so you would think I would have been in the same boat as you. For some reason, the + centers just intuitively made more sense to me than the X centers - I'm not sure why.

 

[Chuck]

I've always found the + centers to be easier to solve than the X centers, although I never really noticed a difference memorizing. Anyway, keep at it - I'm sure you'll start hitting them soon. Were any of them close?

Yes, for me it's easier to memorize and to solve the + centers.
In x centers, I often mistaken the lettering scheme like this:

A B
D C

with

A B
C D

In + centers, it's easier for me to see the clockwise pattern to it.
So it's easier to memorize.

Yes, any of my attempts were close. I met hard cases which I've never met in 4x4x4 BLD before. For example, I have to cycle AJB (I use Mike lettering scheme) where B, C, and D haven't solved yet. I got very very confused at first, but I understand it now. I'm sure I will solve it on 5th or 6th attempt.

Wish me luck!

 

[Mike Hughey]

Sorry to double-post, but I thought this was worthy of it (Edit: I see Chuck posted as I was about to, so it wasn't a double-post after all):

2-7 Relay BLD: DNF (2:58:28.82, about 1:45 memorization)

Nnnnooooooooooo!!!!! It was so close! Only 3 outer wings wrong on the 6x6x6; everything else was correct! On the 6x6x6, I memorized S instead of T for the last outer wing, so S and T were 3-cycled with my buffer piece.

I have to go back and check the video to find out the precise memorization time, but I haven't gotten around to it.

The 5x5x5 scramble was this week's third BLD scramble; the 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 scrambles were this week's fifth speedsolving scrambles for each; the 4x4x4 scramble was:
U2 U2' L' Rw2 D2 U Rw' R U' F' L2 Fw' B U' Rw2 B2 Fw' Rw' F2 D' U R' F' Rw' R2 U B' U' Fw R Rw2 Fw U' B2 R2 Fw' U' R L2 Rw'
the 3x3x3 scramble was the 15th scramble in this week's multi scrambles, and the 2x2x2 scramble was:
F U F U' R' U R' F U'

I figured it was a holiday and I had to still get my last 5x5x5 BLD, 6x6x6 BLD, and 7x7x7 BLD all out of the way, so why not do them all at once? And I got two of them right, too!

It's so disappointing it was so close - it may be a while before I get around to trying it again. The memorization was really solid; I memorized this way:
memorize 7x7x7
refresh 7x7x7
memorize 6x6x6
refresh 6x6x6
refresh 7x7x7 and 6x6x6
memorize 5x5x5
refresh 5x5x5
refresh 7x7x7, 6x6x6, 5x5x5
memorize 4x4x4
memorize 3x3x3
refresh 4x4x4 and 3x3x3
refresh 7x7x7, 6x6x6, 5x5x5, 4x4x4, 3x3x3
memorize 2x2x2
GO!

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

Wow Mike! That's awesome!! I hope you'll get it sometime soon, if you're ever going to try again

 

[Chuck]

Mike, you're the greatest cuber I've ever known.
I can't say anything else, I'm speechless.

Cheer up. The process is always as important as the result.