How to Solve a Rubik's Cube Faster - Advanced F2L Techniques

[RobH0629]

Hello Everyone,

I have just created a new tutorial for cubers trying to understand basic F2L concepts. In the video, I discuss several ways in which speedcubers can become faster, yet focus on F2L cases where the corner+edge are both in the top layer and separated.

You can view this tutorial by clicking on this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-trD1s55UUE

My channel on YouTube which also has multiple other tutorials for the 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, and other things you may like to learn, can be found at:

http://www.youtube.com/RobH0629

Thanks for checking it out and if you have any questions, feel free to send me a YouTube message or comment! Thanks!

-Rob

 

[4Chan]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

 

[StachuK1992]

Took you long enough to join...

But welcome nonetheless!

 

[piemaster]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

 

[4Chan]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

So then ZB is super advanced, since its total edge control.
ZB is an f2l technique too. Thats why its split into ZBF2l and ZBLL.

 

[puzzlemaster]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

 

[bwatkins]

I thinks its considered "advanced" because he also has "beginner" videos on the cube and those contain and "easy" F2L solving method...perhaps that's where the verbiage comes from.

 

[Sa967St]

welcome to the forums Rob!

I watched the video yesterday, and it's very nice , but I have to agree with Cubes=Life though, that's not advanced F2L.
I was going to write a comment saying that it's not advanced, but I was worried that it would be -1'd.
Imo, advanced F2L would be like multislotting, use of empty slots, edge control, OLL control etc.

edit: http://www.cubefreak.net/Fridrich/F2L_advanced.html

 

[piemaster]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

I know, right? These guys disagree with me.

 

[RobH0629]

I thinks its considered "advanced" because he also has "beginner" videos on the cube and those contain and "easy" F2L solving method...perhaps that's where the verbiage comes from.

What I meant by "Advanced" was what bwatkins said. I have the beginner method, so these new techniques are indeed advanced (meaning more complex) for cubers who currently place corners down first and then edges separately.

But yes, it seems that it means "more advanced than basic F2L techniques". I know that these situations are not the most complex F2L cases. If you watch the video, you will see I say that these are the easiest F2L cases. I just thought "Advanced F2L Techniques" sounded nice... PLUS I may add additional cases or Parts which go over more complex F2L cases. Geez. Nitpicky people.. aren't we

 

[phases]

Hey Rob,
I learned the cube from your seven step (9 or ten video) beginner series a couple weeks ago. Great videos, moved at a perfect pace for me. Will check out these, as I've learned f2l and am trying to improve.

Thanks again!

 

[bwatkins]

Hey Rob,
I learned the cube from your seven step (9 or ten video) beginner series a couple weeks ago. Great videos, moved at a perfect pace for me. Will check out these, as I've learned f2l and am trying to improve.

Thanks again!

A little courtesy, i like it.

 

[fanwuq]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

So then ZB is super advanced, since its total edge control.
ZB is an f2l technique too. Thats why its split into ZBF2l and ZBLL.

Partial edge control and empty slot are nowhere near the level of full multi-slotting. ZBF2L is pretty much full edge control; Full optimal multi-slotting is not possible at the moment.
Super advanced would be optimal 2x2x3 block or X-cross from inspection; even finding optimal 2x2x2 or cross every time during inspection would be very advanced. I don't even think a master of the "simple" cross exists as of yet.
I would just change title to intermediate.

 

[Sa967St]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

Using empty slots is more advanced than just using the 41 basic F2L cases. Imo, techniques beyond those 41 cases would be considered advanced, and ZB would be at the extreme end of advanved F2L.

Oh, and the things that are mensioned in the video don't even cover all the "tricks" for the 41 basic cases, however, it is a nice tutorial for anyone using LBL who is trying to learn the basics of intuitive F2L.

edit: +1 for Fanwuq

What I meant by "Advanced" was what bwatkins said. I have the beginner method, so these new techniques are indeed advanced (meaning more complex) for cubers who currently place corners down first and then edges separately.

But yes, it seems that it means "more advanced than basic F2L techniques". I know that these situations are not the most complex F2L cases. If you watch the video, you will see I say that these are the easiest F2L cases. I just thought "Advanced F2L Techniques" sounded nice... PLUS I may add additional cases or Parts which go over more complex F2L cases. Geez. Nitpicky people.. aren't we

yes, we are nitpicky people
The title is misleading, and it may cause less-experienced cubers to believe that these simple tricks are considered "advanced F2L techniques", which is arguably incorrect.

 

[bwatkins]

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

Using empty slots is more advanced than just using the 41 basic F2L cases. Imo, techniques beyond those 41 cases would be considered advanced, and ZB would be at the extreme end of advanved F2L.

Oh, and the things that are mensioned in the video don't even cover all the "tricks" for the 41 basic cases, but it's a nice tutorial for anyone using LBL who is trying to learn the basics of intuitive F2L.

edit: +1 for Fanwuq

I think this is the sole purpose of the video

 

[RobH0629]

"Advanced" Techniques -> Introduction to F2L

I do agree for the most part with what people said. If I have "Advanced" F2L Techniques, then it may imply that these are not simple tricks/tips which can help beginners of F2L solve the corners and middle edges.

I have changed the title of the Video itself to "How to Solve a Rubik's Cube Faster - Introduction to F2L"

Being that F2L in general is advanced over regular corner, then edge method, LBL, etc. I thought it would sound nice. But yes, as Sarah said, it may be misleading for viewers who are new to F2L and think they may be watching a tutorial on Advanced Techniques for F2L.

Thanks for the comments.

-Rob

 

[puzzlemaster]

I do agree for the most part with what people said. If I have "Advanced" F2L Techniques, then it may imply that these are not simple tricks/tips which can help beginners of F2L solve the corners and middle edges.

I have changed the title of the Video itself to "How to Solve a Rubik's Cube Faster - Introduction to F2L"

Being that F2L in general is advanced over regular corner, then edge method, LBL, etc. I thought it would sound nice. But yes, as Sarah said, it may be misleading for viewers who are new to F2L and think they may be watching a tutorial on Advanced Techniques for F2L.

Thanks for the comments.

-Rob

There's an edit button to edit your post so that you don't double post. Please do so from now on as many people will start to get aggravated.

EDIT:

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

I know, right? These guys disagree with me.

Obviously you didn't understand what i said. Let me rephrase...I agree with cubes=life and disagree with you.

 

[4Chan]

Obviously you didn't understand what i said. Let me rephrase...I agree with cubes=life and disagree with you.

Lol, thanks.
You can call me Chris though, remember me from Big Cubes Summer last month?

 

[puzzlemaster]

Obviously you didn't understand what i said. Let me rephrase...I agree with cubes=life and disagree with you.

Lol, thanks.
You can call me Chris though, remember me from Big Cubes Summer last month?

Haha chris I knew your name. However I wasn't sure if you wanted me to call you that.

 

[piemaster]

I do agree for the most part with what people said. If I have "Advanced" F2L Techniques, then it may imply that these are not simple tricks/tips which can help beginners of F2L solve the corners and middle edges.

I have changed the title of the Video itself to "How to Solve a Rubik's Cube Faster - Introduction to F2L"

Being that F2L in general is advanced over regular corner, then edge method, LBL, etc. I thought it would sound nice. But yes, as Sarah said, it may be misleading for viewers who are new to F2L and think they may be watching a tutorial on Advanced Techniques for F2L.

Thanks for the comments.

-Rob

There's an edit button to edit your post so that you don't double post. Please do so from now on as many people will start to get aggravated.

EDIT:

>>Advanced F2l Techniques.

Thats not advanced at all.
Thats barely intermediate f2l.

Advanced is ZB.

Not really, advanced f2l is like...let's say, partial edge control, use of empty slots, multi-slotting, thing like that. The point is, it's worded wrong.

Use of empty slots is advanced for you? Partial edge control is advanced for you? isn't that simply common sense? I agree with cubes=life...ZB is advanced.

I know, right? These guys disagree with me.

Obviously you didn't understand what i said. Let me rephrase...I agree with cubes=life and disagree with you.

I just happen to have remembered this: http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/f2l.php