Hey all, new to cubing.

phases

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Hey guys. Didn't see an introductions section but wanted to say hi, and I guess a background on how I got here.

30 years old, married, work in IT and live in Nashville. Do some volunteer admin work on various mobile phone sites and own the long-overdue-for-an-update site superstickphase.com

A little over a week ago my friend's daughter was playing with a cube and I thought to myself, "Self, let's learn that thing". So on Wednesday I bought one, and watched Rob's videos a couple times, wrote some stuff down, and did my first solve without looking at notes on Friday.

Next thing I know I'm timing myself and doing it over and over. Then Saturday I taught my wife, and we take turns timing each other. I'm also now trying to teach my neighbor's daughter (and consequently my neighbor). She's still practicing the first layer cross.

I'm slow, but new and using a beginners method. My current record with getting to skip a step or more because it just sorta falls into place is 1:50, with having to do each step at least once 2:15, and one-handed 9:31. I wanna get under a minute next.

Last night I took my cube apart and gave it a light coating of jig-a-loo and its moving much better now (which is why I was even able to do one handed). My cube came very stiff. (My neighbors was very very loose, both store bought rubik's). I haven't got a chance to test a new two handed time on it since lubing thanks to me cutting my thumb yesterday. It's takin' a very sad toll on my cubing.

So anyway. I guess now I need to practice using finger tricks or flips or whatever ya call it and get comfortable with that before trying to learn new methods. Right now I'm doing the 'ol trusty grab-n-turn. Or, do you think I should go on and learn a more intermediate method before bothering with the finger-flips? Eh, it probably doesn't matter.

Also, the laminate over the stickers started peeling off the other day, too. Does that mean the stickers themselves are going to start peeling real soon? I'm actually debating getting a second cube. This one gets A LOT of use. I can't put the thing down. I've probably solved it 100 times. I just solve, scamble and start over. Looks like it's been around for years with all the laminate rolling up. I guess I could try to use a razor to trim the rolls off.

Well, sorry for the long rambling intro post. I guess if you have any thoughts on the finger tricks or stickers' laminate peeling feel free to give me your insight, I'm new and open to any advice! This is my first time reaching out to actually talk to another cuber rather than just lookin' around online. But, no need if you don't feel like chiming in - I will indeed find my way around the site and see what is already there. I mostly just wanted to say hi but the questions just naturally come out.

p.s. Oh and one more thing, and this is probably a silly question but, when I watch videos it looks like everyone inspects before starting the timer. But we mix it for each other and start the timer as we hand it to the other person, killing a few seconds of our times while inspecting. Are we going against industry standard? :P

-Phases
 
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Phases - Welcome to the forum!

So the standard is that you do get 15 seconds to inspect, and plan out your first steps should it be the cross, 2x2 block, etc. (Depending on your solving method)

After that 15 seconds, you start your solve!

The laminate is from the Rubik's official brand stickers. There are vinyl stickers that you can get from Rubik's official website that'll work for a while, but personally I order (and most people here it seems) orders from www.cubesmith.com.

They make custom sticker sets for SUPER cheap, and the stickers last darn near forever (the ones I've gotten anyway)

So I'd recommend checking that place out. They have great stickers, shipping is quick and they're awesome.

For all questions, check out the forum search feature - there's a LOT of questions that can be found there. Also, don't hesitate to ask via the forum after doing a quick search.

Most times though, I find google has a lot of information that's relevant, and sometimes you can even find information within these threads from there as well.

Being in IT, I imagine you're probably already pretty proficient in finding information, so do the same for cubing and if you're stuck, we'd be happy to help out :)

Dave
 
Welcome to the fun world of cubing!

There is a member introduction section but it's not visible from the home page forum navigation, so...not your fault.

You're in for a fun ride--the better you get at cubing, the more fun it is. Lots of people scoff at learning a bunch of new algorithms, but to me it keeps each solve interesting by not having to do the same thing every time. Go to YouTube and search for Badmephisto for a huge pile of material on just about every speedcubing topic. He sets the standard for quality instruction.

And definitely get a speedcube--Rubik's brand is not really built for speed. Cube4You.com has a wide selection. I recommend Type C for beginners--it has a good balance between speed and stability.

There's a lot of good material here...use the search function to uncover the speedcubing wisdom of the ages! Well...at least a few years worth. Not much happened between 1982 and 2003. ;)

Enjoy!
 
Hey thanks for the replies guys. Yeah, you got me... I can indeed find the answers I need myself, searching and on google. ;) It's certainly not hard. It's how we solve most every problem come across and don't already know the answer to, here at work.

But, it's more fun to be a part of a community :)

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'll check that site out. I also like to browse cube4you.com. I didn't even know there were such things as 2x2, 4x4.. etc. Neat stuff!

Edit: Funny you should mention that teller, I was just looking around to find the differences between the types. About to watch these.
 
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Oooo, yay, another grown up. :-) Welcome!

Be sure to check out the wiki (look under "more" in the toolbar) and the FAQ. Someone made a really good posting on cube types recently, it may be stickied in the hardware section.
 
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Hi Phases, welcome to speedsolving!

Methods-wise, the beginner method should be able to take you down to about a minute after a bit of practice, but beyond that a more efficient method will go a long way to reducing your times. If you've learned an LBL method such as the one taught by badmephisto the most obvious progression is towards Fridrich. Learn intuitive F2L and more OLL and PLL algorithms for a more efficient last layer and your times will soon be dropping ;)

Although many of the fastest cubers use Fridrich, I'd deffo recommend having a look at some other methods as well, such as Petrus, Roux, ZZ, Waterman, Heise etc. Not only can they reveal some more interesting aspects to the cube, but you may find one something that better suits your cubing style and is faster for you personally. There's plenty info on cubing methods here in the forums, and also organised into one place in the speedsolving wiki.

Happy cubing :)
 
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Hey, thanks. Watching his video and skipping around, it looks like I've learned something very similar to his. The steps are the same but at least one of the algorithms is different that I can see. (Placing the L2 edges).

Learning 100 alg's (or whatever it is) for a Fridrich sure is an intimidating prospect, but something tells me it's likely something I'll undertake at some point.

I'm may try to get away with this cube for a while.. or may get a DIY.. I dunno yet. I'm trying to apply PestVics method on youtube to break in a store bought. I did some amount of it, and it helped, before lubing it. But now that it's lubed, if I continue to grind away at it - will I need to re-lube it?
 
Yeah. You'll need to re-lube it. And for Fridrich it's only 21+57=78 alg's if you learn intuitive F2L. It's not that intimidating if you take it step by step. ;)
 
But once you get into roux and you're using two step corners, you feel an obsessive need to learn full CmLL. It drives me crazy!!!

If you're not a lazy guy like me you would. I stuck with 2 look corners until I was at 23 seconds and I can still sub-20 with 2 look :D

and besides FULL CMLL is only 42 algorithms. Which is not that bad :D
 
But once you get into roux and you're using two step corners, you feel an obsessive need to learn full CmLL. It drives me crazy!!!

If you're not a lazy guy like me you would. I stuck with 2 look corners until I was at 23 seconds and I can still sub-20 with 2 look :D

and besides FULL CMLL is only 42 algorithms. Which is not that bad :D

I'm slow at learning algs so I probably won't finish CmLL until I'm around 24 seconds or so with roux. I'm at like 31 seconds right now.

lol, only 78...

It sounds and looks a lot more scary than it actually is. Work on getting sub minute though first. Take it slow.
 
Learning 100 alg's (or whatever it is) for a Fridrich sure is an intimidating prospect, but something tells me it's likely something I'll undertake at some point.


50 of those are pretty optional, and only gain you a second or two or three during the OLL step. I learned them up front because I'm a maniac (took a couple of months), but lots of people get sub-20 times without them. Fridrich scales really nicely from beginner to expert; you just add more algs and don't really have to throw anything away.
 
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