[Unofficial] .72 magic slowmotion , and a guy with annoying comments

[oskarasbrink]

a guy from hong kong says over and over that my .72 magic solve was DNF (or at least +2?)and that many hong kong cubers says it is too.please help me out by watching the video and see if it is legit and reply to his comments if it is.

EDIT: this was in the wrong section so please forgive me

 

[StachuK1992]

wow. Can you average?
and yeah; I think that's a +2.

 

[Stefan]

a guy from hong kong says over and over that my .72 magic solve was DNF (or at least +2?)and that many hong kong cubers says it is too

Like I replied to him already: The plural of opinion is not fact.

Certainly not DNF, *maybe* +2 because of hands or magic not flat enough. That is, if you go by the letter of the WCA rules, are very strict, and have the video evidence. I think in a real WCA competition this would be considered 0.72 and valid.

Stachu, what's your reason for +2?

 

[mazei]

I think its the hands when he stopped it.

 

[StachuK1992]

a guy from hong kong says over and over that my .72 magic solve was DNF (or at least +2?)and that many hong kong cubers says it is too

Like I replied to him already: The plural of opinion is not fact.

Certainly not DNF, *maybe* +2 because of hands or magic not flat enough. That is, if you go by the letter of the WCA rules, are very strict, and have the video evidence. I think in a real WCA competition this would be considered 0.72 and valid.

Stachu, what's your reason for +2?

The one tile seems a bit high, but I can't confirm that it's above 2 tiles' length. I think that it's more along the lines of 1.5tiles, which is fine.

Very nice solve!

 

[Edam]

10g1) If one tile or two adjacent tiles are elevated too high or folded, and the puzzle is otherwise solved, then the puzzle is considered solved, with a penalty of 2 seconds. In all other cases the result is DNF.

If you pause it on the slow motion at the moment your hands touch the timer (about 23 seconds) you can see that quite a few tiles are elevated.
So I'm guessing that's where people are getting DNF's and +2's from, but I agree with Stefan that you'd only ever notice something like that with video evidence and were being super strict.
Unless that panel on the bottom right is lifted up higher than 'two tiles higher than flat' I think it'd be valid in competition.

 

[DavidWoner]

10g1) If one tile or two adjacent tiles are elevated too high or folded, and the puzzle is otherwise solved, then the puzzle is considered solved, with a penalty of 2 seconds. In all other cases the result is DNF.

If you pause it on the slow motion at the moment your hands touch the timer (about 23 seconds) you can see that quite a few tiles are elevated.
So I'm guessing that's where people are getting DNF's and +2's from, but I agree with Stefan that you'd only ever notice something like that with video evidence and were being super strict.
Unless that panel on the bottom right is lifted up higher than 'two tiles higher than flat' I think it'd be valid in competition.

It goes by the resting position of the puzzle, not the position when the timer is stopped. Otherwise people wouldn't get so many +2s on 2x2, where it often bounces around and then turns after the timer is stopped.

There is no doubt in my mind that it was not elevated beyond 2 tiles. With the magics in certain lighting, shadows will make it look as though they are elevated a lot more than they are. I will also concur that the hand position is legal (just barely though, you might want to watch it in the future).

Your solve is fine Oskar, just ignore the people who are harassing you.

 

[Derrick Eide17]

DNF hell no.
only thing slightly bad is the stoppage, still great though.

 

[Raffael]

only thing slightly bad is the stoppage, still great though.

I wouldn't say so, because he is not touching the puzzle anymore when putting the second hand on the timer.
(first looked like he's stopped the timer with his wrists, but eventually he hasn't)

i'd say it was competition legal.

 

[Daniel Wu]

I think that's fine. It was close to being a +2 because of the wrists but I think it's fine.

 

[oskarasbrink]

10g1) If one tile or two adjacent tiles are elevated too high or folded, and the puzzle is otherwise solved, then the puzzle is considered solved, with a penalty of 2 seconds. In all other cases the result is DNF.

If you pause it on the slow motion at the moment your hands touch the timer (about 23 seconds) you can see that quite a few tiles are elevated.
So I'm guessing that's where people are getting DNF's and +2's from, but I agree with Stefan that you'd only ever notice something like that with video evidence and were being super strict.
Unless that panel on the bottom right is lifted up higher than 'two tiles higher than flat' I think it'd be valid in competition.

It goes by the resting position of the puzzle, not the position when the timer is stopped. Otherwise people wouldn't get so many +2s on 2x2, where it often bounces around and then turns after the timer is stopped.

There is no doubt in my mind that it was not elevated beyond 2 tiles. With the magics in certain lighting, shadows will make it look as though they are elevated a lot more than they are. I will also concur that the hand position is legal (just barely though, you might want to watch it in the future).

Your solve is fine Oskar, just ignore the people who are harassing you.

thank you David

 

[Yes We Can!]

:O :O :O
So good! .11 under World record!

 

[Edam]

Oh i wasn't arguing it. I was just trying to come up with some reason people might be giving hassle about it.
If i was judging it I wouldn't even think twice about it, new wr!