Where is the human decency in the cubing community today?

[ih8bld]

I do not know what you are talking about. I have never seen any immaturity from Abhijeet.

If this is the Speedcubing IN discord server, I believe swearing is allowed. Can I have some context? (ngl wrm does kinda ragebait people)

If he was banned and all this you are saying is true, why would he become a super moderator (which he himself gaveup, and was not taken away) without changing?

I don't want to accuse someone on this arguement, I want to hear from both sides.

Yes, this on topic and relating to human decency in the cubing community.

Abhijeet has been working on 5style for a long time (120000 algs) but also lied for a long time that he knew a lot of algs and it's a viable method to get attention etc. When he got called out for his lies, he went and accused people of being racist and discriminating to him because he is Indian (white people, Americans, western cubers etc).

He is causing so many problems if he keeps telling Indian cubers (especially kids) that a large group of the cubing community are being racist to them and they end up spiting and resenting people for no reason other than Abhijeet told them to.

His ban was in the blindfolded solvers discord server but he has also been revoked of his trainee delegate role in the past.

The swearing and him saying the r word was in the speedcubing IN whatsapp group, it says clearly in the rules page.

You can see in the discord server chat again, sure you can say that ppl telling him "oh wait you are already banned there" is rubbing salt in the wound for him and borderline ragebaiting but it is in no way "human decency" to accuse the mods of being racist him for being Indian, and randomly attacking Scalpel (bigbld WR holder Stanley Chapel) for no reason.

 

[SpeedCubingLord]

I will try, although I have a lot of flaws, like picking up online fights, talking back to cubers who do not deserve attention etc.

It will require some efforts to have the perfect attitude like Feliks Zemdegs yo

Abhijeet has been working on 5style for a long time (120000 algs) but also lied for a long time that he knew a lot of algs and it's a viable method to get attention etc. When he got called out for his lies, he went and accused people of being racist and discriminating to him because he is Indian (white people, Americans, western cubers etc).

He is causing so many problems if he keeps telling Indian cubers (especially kids) that a large group of the cubing community are being racist to them and they end up spiting and resenting people for no reason other than Abhijeet told them to.

His ban was in the blindfolded solvers discord server but he has also been revoked of his trainee delegate role in the past.

The swearing and him saying the r word was in the speedcubing IN whatsapp group, it says clearly in the rules page.

You can see in the discord server chat again, sure you can say that ppl telling him "oh wait you are already banned there" is rubbing salt in the wound for him and borderline ragebaiting but it is in no way "human decency" to accuse the mods of being racist him for being Indian, and randomly attacking Scalpel (bigbld WR holder Stanley Chapel) for no reason.

If this is true, just simply change your ways @abunickabhi . The cubing community as a whole should make efforts for respect. This includes, everyone, regardless of what has occurred in the past. Address those claims and if they are true, admit to them, and positively, move on and learn from your mistakes.

We are not here to diminish others, but to act in a unified, respectful, and harmless manner. So, let's improve and be better people.

 

[acrystal]

Abhijeet says while acting like more of a child than the actual kids in the community

Abhijeet has said the r word at least twice (with proof) in a chat where swearing is banned due to many kids being in the chat on their parents' accounts.

Textbook example of playing the victim and accusing being framed when caught and banned for a long history of lying.

Again trying to divert attention. No one has a problem with his understanding of 5-style, it's his willfully lying about it like knowing 30000 algs etc.

I have seen Abhijeet anna in the flesh before, and I don't see what you are talking abt. He's a great guy imo and there is no way he would do such a thing. Even if he was lying, there is no reason to accuse him with saying rude stuff. All that stuff he did was a thing of the past and i am pretty sure he changed. I totally agree with @SpeedCubingLord , and Abhijeet anna doesn't deserve such hate from ppl like you. He is just trying to talk abt the controversy in the speedcubing community, and you're making him looking like its his fault? Moreover, why don't you change your opinion on him and give him a chance?

 

[ih8bld]

I have seen Abhijeet anna in the flesh before, and I don't see what you are talking abt. He's a great guy imo and there is no way he would do such a thing. Even if he was lying, there is no reason to accuse him with saying rude stuff. All that stuff he did was a thing of the past and i am pretty sure he changed. I totally agree with @SpeedCubingLord , and Abhijeet anna doesn't deserve such hate from ppl like you. He is just trying to talk abt the controversy in the speedcubing community, and you're making him looking like its his fault? Moreover, why don't you change your opinion on him and give him a chance?

I can understand people not understanding his lies because it requires knowing about BLD, but he has blatantly tried to mislead Indians into believing that the western cubing community are being racist to them.

If you are in the speedcubing IN discord server, you can scroll back to the messages to a week ago for the full context (even just the screenshot in my earlier reply is enough). I'm not accusing him of saying rude stuff, I have actual proof of it now.

I have seen enough of what he's done for years now that I know what he is trying to do with this post. And we (as the community) has given him lots of chances to change and he has not.

 

[acrystal]

I can understand people not understanding his lies because it requires knowing about BLD, but he has blatantly tried to mislead Indians into believing that the western cubing community are being racist to them.

If you are in the speedcubing IN discord server, you can scroll back to the messages to a week ago for the full context (even just the screenshot in my earlier reply is enough). I'm not accusing him of saying rude stuff, I have actual proof of it now.

I have seen enough of what he's done for years now that I know what he is trying to do with this post. And we (as the community) has given him lots of chances to change and he has not.

Oh for gods sake, if you don't like him, leave him, we will deal with whether we like him or not!

 

[ih8bld]

Oh for gods sake, if you don't like him, leave him, we will deal with whether we like him or not!

Thank you for your generous contribution to this discussion. People willing to be oblivious to anything they don't want to see will never get old LMAO

 

[abunickabhi]

I can understand people not understanding his lies because it requires knowing about BLD, but he has blatantly tried to mislead Indians into believing that the western cubing community are being racist to them.

If you are in the speedcubing IN discord server, you can scroll back to the messages to a week ago for the full context (even just the screenshot in my earlier reply is enough). I'm not accusing him of saying rude stuff, I have actual proof of it now.

I have seen enough of what he's done for years now that I know what he is trying to do with this post. And we (as the community) has given him lots of chances to change and he has not.

Just a word of advice to you:

The first step to being a better human being is to identify your own weaknesses and shortcomings.

I am in no mood to engage with you, as it will waste my time without conveying what my intent is.

It is sad to see such behavior from kids today.

Also I need to work on my miscommunication online, especially if the person (with limited listening bandwidth) is from a different culture which indirectly enables toxicity.

 

[ih8bld]

Just a word of advice to you:

The first step to being a better human being is to identify your own weaknesses and shortcomings.

I am in no mood to engage with you, as it will waste my time without conveying what my intent is.

It is sad to see such behavior from kids today.

Also I need to work on my miscommunication online, especially if the person (with limited listening bandwidth) is from a different culture which indirectly enables toxicity.

Then why don't you identify why people dislike you. And no it's not because they are racist to Indians, and stop trying to make people believe that.

 

[acrystal]

Then why don't you identify why people dislike you. And no it's not because they are racist to Indians, and stop trying to make people believe that.

no one believes that everyone is racist to indians,

 

[abunickabhi]

Also a reminder about the lies about by the ih8bld guy,

I stepped down from delegating as work life was too stressful for me. This fact can be verified by asking any delegating with whom I have had contact with or worked with.

I apologize for using r word a few times, but this was exactly what I felt. For example, I don't expect an Indian in British India to tolerate racism in multiple situations and not even acknowledge it.

Granted the r happens nowadays in more subtle way, but it is omnipresent and shows a lack of upbringing about the people who choose to deny this attitude and lash out online on any of my ideas, and continuously backstab and spread false propaganda and defamation about me. I guess I have to live with it, since my identity is known, and such people will continue to exist

 

[ih8bld]

I stepped down from delegating as work life was too stressful for me. This fact can be verified by asking any delegating with whom I have had contact with or worked with.

My apologies if this is not true, I used public information from a public discord server, you can feel free to clear your name. But at least it's not intentionally lying to mislead like your many lies in the BLD solvers server that you still refuse to take responsibility for and still blame on racism and being framed.

I apologize for using r word a few times, but this was exactly what I felt. For example, I don't expect an Indian in British India to tolerate racism in multiple situations and not even acknowledge it.

Well guess what? You are not in British India anymore. So what are you trying to use it for that is relevant to your actions in the present day?

 

[ih8bld]

no one believes that everyone is racist to indians,

Abhijeet sure has claimed that in way too many times to be the case. Wonder why other Indians aren't getting "racism" from the same people in the same servers, it's a mystery!

 

[abunickabhi]

My apologies if this is not true, I used public information from a public discord server, you can feel free to clear your name. But at least it's not intentionally lying to mislead like your many lies in the BLD solvers server that you still refuse to take responsibility for and still blame on racism and being framed.

Well guess what? You are not in British India anymore. So what are you trying to use it for that is relevant to your actions in the present day?


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It's strange what preconceptions people choose to believe in. Advisory council was planned to be dissolved for quite a while.

I was removed as a leader as WCT and WAC merged. I don't understand the need to misunderstand and create rumours in the event. What happened with WAC was inevitably. I was happy to serve and work fruitfully in the Council from 2019-24.

About the accusations from Alex Mass, I have no words. He has close ties with WCA and twists facts and influences things that benefits him lol. I won't make any more statements about him in public as it can be used against me lol.

In WAC, we had previous two minors as members, one recruited in 2021 and one in 2022. There was no rule as such about an age limit. The board did not specify in writing about an age limit before the interview was conducted. My mistake could have been, to not get the entire set of conditions by proactively and explicitly writing to the WCA board that they feel is correct to select any new member for the Council.

 

[-Cube Kid-]

Also the parents who gives phones at their kids at a very young age (like bro what is the utility of having a phone in 2nd grade)

Ugh, yes! So annoying, I'm 14, and I don't have a phone, but 5-year-olds do?!

 

[acrystal]

Ugh, yes! So annoying, I'm 14, and I don't have a phone, but 5-year-olds do?!

YEAH very few ppl in my class have phones like why?!

 

[Sub20Soon]

Ugh, yes! So annoying, I'm 14, and I don't have a phone, but 5-year-olds do?!

Yeah im 13 and my parents says im not going to have one until im in apartement

 

[abunickabhi]

Yeah im 13 and my parents says im not going to have one until im in apartement

I am quite happy with your parents. It is quite hard to maintain such strictness in today's age.

 

[effperm]

@abunickabhi still have yet to answer who these "cubers with fully disclosed identities" for no reason are

also ill say it now given that @ih8bld has dropped pretty much everything that the people who have had past issues with those actions that he mentioned wouldve wanted to say, i was lied to about 5-style as well obviously ill just be saying words here but there was indeed a point in time where i genuinely thought 5-style would be the future, & as such have contributed to providing algs, letter quads & even a resource

albeit it was very little, & i'd like to think that he didnt lie with bad intentions, but it was still a non-zero amount of time wasted though & clearly i have gotten no sign of apology other than him just saying that my feelings were just hate

messages shortly after i simply said what i have already said in this post actually, in just the euros 2024 stream chat where only one person learned something new
(you can go check it yourself it was just shortly after tommy got his 3bld wr mean in the day 4 stream)​

& btw, @acrystal is right, we can still come back from this if simply this silly behavior was gotten rid of & everyone that felt wronged in some way was ensured that they werent or at least wont be anymore
buuut yet he was recently calling one of james macdiarmind's recent oceanic records "slow" when he probably already knows it im sure (given that james has expressed in a ZBLL-related server how his raw TPS has been literally decreasing over the years), & of course, everything that @ih8bld has provided which has really shocked me & makes me doubt that thiswill be the case any time soon

i'll just say it because ih8bld hasnt said it for some reason, but @abunickabhi there is no such thing as hating someone because of their race here, there is only hating someone because of their behavior, like you never see pratik khanna or dhruv thirumalaraijan making fun of recent results like this

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I do admit that the more I observed how people are (in general) over the years, the less motivation (and sense of "urgency") I found myself having to share some really interesting things with this world.

i've been meaning to say this but have hesitated due to it coming off as rather rude, but, are you sure that the average speedcuber would find any of your cubing contributions interesting ?
i fully understand the sentiment & absolutely know of people who truly just dont care because they dont care, but (im only saying this just for context) theres a reason why ben whitmore for example has called your 4x4 parity page on the wiki & stuff "autism" meanwhile he has generated 4x4 parity algs that are actually usable for speedsolving & are compatible with existing strategies (of which were learned by sebastian weyer, who would then on win the most recent world championship for 4x4 with them)

i absolutely dont think you should stop sharing stuff, a friend & i have gone over your 4x4 derivation tutorials once & they indeed are super cool & were definitely a part of history of which i wish was appreciated more, as i obviously didnt know that lucas parity was made by hand, & even made a 1-flip myself to show myself that i did learn from those vids here if any of you are interested if i were you i would make remasters of them
but beyond your 4x4 stuff, i dont see how the average cuber who nowadays most likely just wants to solve cubes fast can gain anything from them, clearly looks to me that those are for the people who are into the pure cube theory stuff, which have their own respective developed communites (recently a discord server has been made) that are completely outside of speedsolving & will be even more so in the future

& imo the reason why we arent as technologically advanced as we probably could be as you mentioned, is because of the lack of clear best methods for speedsolving, the fact that the #1 & #2 solvers in the most competitive cubing category ever are using completely different approaches to solving one half of the puzzle (literally even, its 10/20 pieces !) just shows that we are literally still experimenting in even what seems to be the most developed of spaces

 

[abunickabhi]

@abunickabhi still have yet to answer who these "cubers with fully disclosed identities" for no reason are

also ill say it now given that @ih8bld has dropped pretty much everything that the people who have had past issues with those actions that he mentioned wouldve wanted to say, i was lied to about 5-style as well obviously ill just be saying words here but there was indeed a point in time where i genuinely thought 5-style would be the future, & as such have contributed to providing algs, letter quads & even a resource

albeit it was very little, & i'd like to think that he didnt lie with bad intentions, but it was still a non-zero amount of time wasted though & clearly i have gotten no sign of apology other than him just saying that my feelings were just hate

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messages shortly after i simply said what i have already said in this post actually, in just the euros 2024 stream chat where only one person learned something new
(you can go check it yourself it was just shortly after tommy got his 3bld wr mean in the day 4 stream)​

& btw, @acrystal is right, we can still come back from this if simply this silly behavior was gotten rid of & everyone that felt wronged in some way was ensured that they werent or at least wont be anymore
buuut yet he was recently calling one of james macdiarmind's recent oceanic records "slow" when he probably already knows it im sure (given that james has expressed in a ZBLL-related server how his raw TPS has been literally decreasing over the years), & of course, everything that @ih8bld has provided which has really shocked me & makes me doubt that thiswill be the case any time soon

i'll just say it because ih8bld hasnt said it for some reason, but @abunickabhi there is no such thing as hating someone because of their race here, there is only hating someone because of their behavior, like you never see pratik khanna or dhruv thirumalaraijan making fun of recent results like this

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i've been meaning to say this but have hesitated due to it coming off as rather rude, but, are you sure that the average speedcuber would find any of your cubing contributions interesting ?
i fully understand the sentiment & absolutely know of people who truly just dont care because they dont care, but (im only saying this just for context) theres a reason why ben whitmore for example has called your 4x4 parity page on the wiki & stuff "autism" meanwhile he has generated 4x4 parity algs that are actually usable for speedsolving & are compatible with existing strategies (of which were learned by sebastian weyer, who would then on win the most recent world championship for 4x4 with them)

i absolutely dont think you should stop sharing stuff, a friend & i have gone over your 4x4 derivation tutorials once & they indeed are super cool & were definitely a part of history of which i wish was appreciated more, as i obviously didnt know that lucas parity was made by hand, & even made a 1-flip myself to show myself that i did learn from those vids here if any of you are interested if i were you i would make remasters of them
but beyond your 4x4 stuff, i dont see how the average cuber who nowadays most likely just wants to solve cubes fast can gain anything from them, clearly looks to me that those are for the people who are into the pure cube theory stuff, which have their own respective developed communites (recently a discord server has been made) that are completely outside of speedsolving & will be even more so in the future

& imo the reason why we arent as technologically advanced as we probably could be as you mentioned, is because of the lack of clear best methods for speedsolving, the fact that the #1 & #2 solvers in the most competitive cubing category ever are using completely different approaches to solving one half of the puzzle (literally even, its 10/20 pieces !) just shows that we are literally still experimenting in even what seems to be the most developed of spaces

Thanks for expressing your thoughts. I apologize for coming off as rude to you in the past.

I guess the solution for me is to interact less online. I am loved by countless humans in real life and have a great rappo and friendship built. It is a fulfilling experience offline and I am excited to continue doing well in my work life and personal life. I am attending my 134th WCA competition this weekend, which I am excited about.

I need to avoid getting ragebaited when people target UF5 online. But that algset is my baby and I cannot stand any troll. Haters can continue collecting and preserving screenshots about my ragebait. But I feel if someone trolls the very thing I love working on, it becomes hard to control the anger. I am quite happy with my offline life. I am doing quite a good job in it and am a nice and kind human being.

I guess your perception would be that I am a liar and being ultra defensive. But I cannot change your perception since you have only interacted with me online and have seen the ragebaited screenshots that show my bad side when the trolls poke me hard.

 

[ih8bld]

& btw, @acrystal is right, we can still come back from this if simply this silly behavior was gotten rid of & everyone that felt wronged in some way was ensured that they werent or at least wont be anymore

Of course everyone wishes that there is no such negativity in the community, but this has been going on since like 2021 (arguably Abhijeet's spite of the cubing community started with Stanley blocking him in 2018 over a stupid argument). It's hard to keep being optimistic that he will change when years of this has continued, and every time it seems like he takes a step forward he takes 2 or 3 steps back later.

The only thing we can do is make people aware of what he is doing, of course some people who know Abhijeet when confronted with the truth about him refuse to accept it (or even still try to take his side LMAO ) but more people, especially Indian cubers who encounter him at comps and maybe only see his good side as helping in comps etc can see his true colors online.

buuut yet he was recently calling one of james macdiarmind's recent oceanic records "slow" when he probably already knows it im sure (given that james has expressed in a ZBLL-related server how his raw TPS has been literally decreasing over the years)

James later did say that the attempt was slow for him but I cannot believe that this has anything to do with his actual speed in any way (also the OCR was a MBLD solve). Abhijeet has recently been going on a spree of commenting insulting messages on youtube videos of people he dislikes (James is included because he banned him from the BLD solvers server).

The "very slow" comment on James' MBLD OCR video seems to be removed but there are still some other examples of him targeting Stanley and Brandon True. It's just his new way of spiting the community lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= h7ND-el6hHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= Zil9ljfnveo

i'll just say it because ih8bld hasnt said it for some reason, but @abunickabhi there is no such thing as hating someone because of their race here, there is only hating someone because of their behavior, like you never see pratik khanna or dhruv thirumalaraijan making fun of recent results like this

He has already been told that in the past (Shivam Bansal never got hate or accused of cheating because of his race/nationality despite getting an insane 48/48 MBLD world record) but Abhijeet regularly ignores stuff like this that disproves or does not fit his narrative that western cubers are being discriminatory and racist to Indians. Unless he changes, there's no point telling him this.