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[TheSilverBeluga]

ad hominem logical fallacy

It's only ad hominem if the character attack has no relevance to the argument. In this case, it's an attempt to point out hypocrisy by saying it doesn't make sense for someone to complain about spam if they're also someone who is willing to commit spam.

 

[OtaMota]

In this case, it's an attempt to point out hypocrisy by saying it doesn't make sense for someone to complain about spam if they're also someone who is willing to commit spam.

This is still a logical fallacy and ad hominem, Ad hominem tu quoque.

Tu quoque - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The (fallacious) tu quoque argument follows the template (i.e. pattern):

1. Person A claims that a statement X is true.
2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
3. Therefore, X is false.

For example:

1. Person A: "Smoking is associated with chronic health disorders. You shouldn't smoke."
2. Person B: "But you smoke yourself. So much for your argument!"

Person A makes a statement, and Person B reasons that because Person A is being hypocritical, their statement is false."

 

[TheSilverBeluga]

This is still a logical fallacy and ad hominem, Ad hominem tu quoque.

Tu quoque - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The (fallacious) tu quoque argument follows the template (i.e. pattern):

1. Person A claims that a statement X is true.
2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
3. Therefore, X is false.

For example:

1. Person A: "Smoking is associated with chronic health disorders. You shouldn't smoke."
2. Person B: "But you smoke yourself. So much for your argument!"

Person A makes a statement, and Person B reasons that because Person A is being hypocritical, their statement is false."

There was nothing in the original message that implies to me that they were trying to claim the statement was false though. It's not "you're wrong because you're a hypocrite," it's "why are you of all people complaining about this."

edit: for what it's worth, I don't even think the argument is super great because I think there's a difference between mass private messaging and sending lots of messages on a public post

 

[TheSilverBeluga]

And since I don't want to completely derail this thread: Scalpel wins 4bld and no one is surprised

 

[Kivvi]

Yiheng Wang 3.46 Single with PLL Skip! Very much congrats!

 

[ILCubing]

CHEGGINS ON WR MEAN PACE

 

[ILCubing]

16.19 FOR WR MEAN

 

[bldcuber314]

Cheggins failed WR mean by one exec error nooo

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

Semis Starting now

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

Neo Cuares made 3x3 finals!!!

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

Ignagcy is Ur Skewb world champion

 

[Arcanist]

Max Park 6x6 world champion. 1:11.92 mean

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

Sammer Is Ur Squan world champion

 

[precompsubwr]

Charlie 14.43 3bld single world champion

 

[ILCubing]

LETS GO CHARLIE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[precompsubwr]

I think 3x3 finals are starting, start watching the stream if you haven't already

Edit: I realized luke greisser and luke garrett are going h2h

 

[ILCubing]

I think 3x3 finals are starting, start watching the stream if you haven't already

Edit: I realized luke greisser and luke garrett are going h2h

lmao that is so funny

 

[ILCubing]

it's 3x3 finals o'clock!

 

[ILCubing]

EVERYONE BUMP THE THREAD AS MUCH AS YOU CAN I mean talk a lot about 3x3 finals

 

[ILCubing]

This is also my most replied thread, thank you all very much to your contribution to this thread!