CFOP cross and top 2 layers

[UKCubeFan]

My 3x3 system is unique to me, but I'm thinking of changing it. What is the average move total for CFOP top 2 layers? And where is best place to learn it on net?

Thanks

 

[randomness...]

do you mean OLL and PLL?
or do you do cross on the top?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

practice

 

[UKCubeFan]

do you mean OLL and PLL?
or do you do cross on the top?

I don't use any of it in my current system. I solve top layer down for all layers. Me:

1 get 3 yellow corners in place
2 fill in missing 4 yellow middles
3 use empty yellow corner to get 3 middles in place
4 use empty yellow middle to get 4th yellow corner in place

The empty yellow gets filled in in last procedure

 

[randomness...]

I don't use any of it in my current system. I solve top layer down for all layers. Me:

1 get 3 yellow corners in place
2 fill in missing 4 yellow middles
3 use empty yellow corner to get 3 middles in place
4 use empty yellow middle to get 4th yellow corner in place

The empty yellow gets filled in in last procedure

sorry I think I'm not understanding the first post
for CFOP the average move count is ~60 I think, including LL
are you asking about each f2l slot, in which each case can be solved in 8 moves or less

 

[UKCubeFan]

My question was:

What is the average numbers of moves you have in CFOP system to get 2 layers completed before you do last layer.

You say CFOP takes 60 moves average to solve whole cube ????

My system takes 82.5 moves (middle 6 average of ten solves) and I only use 4 algs.

My fastest time 30 seconds, 56 at cube comp.

 

[Fred]

This sounds like Keyhole F2L. For CFOP, the cross and first two layers are solved in about 30-35 moves.

 

[UKCubeFan]

This sounds like Keyhole F2L. For CFOP, the cross and first two layers are solved in about 30-35 moves.

That's not much different to my current system. 31 lowest 42 highest in 10 solves.

 

[randomness...]

My question was:

What is the average numbers of moves you have in CFOP system to get 2 layers completed before you do last layer.

You say CFOP takes 60 moves average to solve whole cube ????

My system takes 82.5 moves (middle 6 average of ten solves) and I only use 4 algs.

My fastest time 30 seconds, 56 at cube comp.

its around 60 from what I remember, its possible its more like 60, 65ish for more advanced solvers.
I didn't understand the question, sorry @UKCubeFan

 

[Garf]

My 3x3 system is unique to me, but I'm thinking of changing it. What is the average move total for CFOP top 2 layers? And where is best place to learn it on net?

Thanks

Could you use twizzle to demonstrate what you're trying to say, please? I think I'm getting what you're throwing down, but I need to see a solve to truly understand what you're saying.
For CFOP, we start with the cross on the bottom, so it's actually the bottom 2 layers, and that averages 30-40 moves for me.

 

[UKCubeFan]

I like the cross part of Freidrich CFOP very few moves but I don't like the rest it. Looks a confusing mess. I'll do some tests on move numbers for an alternative.

 

[UKCubeFan]

Fridrich.

 

[Gecko777]

My 3x3 system is unique to me, but I'm thinking of changing it. What is the average move total for CFOP top 2 layers? And where is best place to learn it on net?

Thanks

around 25 moves if you do it efficiently.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

around 25 moves if you do it efficiently.

20 moves or less if you do It efficiently

0 moves If you do zeroing

0 seconds If you use time dilation

 

[bldcuber314]

Do you know move notation? In which case could you generate a scramble and post your solution as an example solve?

 

[Gecko777]

20 moves or less if you do It efficiently

0 moves If you do zeroing

0 seconds If you use time dilation

i used 16 moves for pll and 8 moves for oll in that example.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

i used 16 moves for pll and 8 moves for oll in that example.

you're not thinking with portals

 

[Bingus Ringus McDingus]

you're not thinking with portals

WHERE THE CAKE AT???

 

[Deleted member 36445]

WHERE THE CAKE AT???

assume the party escourt submission position

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