MBLD: Messing up order of letter pairs sometimes

[abunickabhi]

In some of my DNFs, I mess up the order of letter pairs,

For example, ST LX GI PN is retrieved as GI PN ST LX, leading to DNFs.

Is there a solid way to avoid this?

I use memory palace technique and peg method sometimes to memo for MBLD (upto 300 rooms, and 1 room = 1 cube or 6 loci)

 

[bldcuber314]

I guess I can't relate- I only do 3 cube attempts and don't use letter pairs, I use mnemonic and audio instead. Maybe just actively focusing on remembering the right order, and not just recalling the letter pair.

 

[Cuberstache]

The way to resolve this is to make rules about how your letter pairs interact. Maybe you decide that adjectives only apply to nouns after them, not before. Sometimes you make rules about specific words. One I ran into recently was the word table. I had an attempt that had TB XP (TaBle XyloPhone) but I executed XP TB. After analyzing the video footage of the attempt and figuring out exactly what I did wrong (a very important step for every multi attempt!), I realized what went wrong and came up with rules to avoid it. I decided that if there was another noun before table, that thing would act as a table, but if there's a noun after table, that thing would be near the table and sort of the focus of attention from the table. What I imagined in the attempt was that the table was near a xylophone, sort of like live music entertainment at a restaurant, so I stuck with that interpretation for TB XP, but decided that XP TB would be a xylophone with food and silverware and stuff on it. Catch these when they occur and they will gradually occur less and less often.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

This is by far the most annoying thing to go wrong in MBLD. In my 24/25 former NR I messed up JB EG with EG JB. I have made some rules about ordering like @Cuberstache suggested but I've been having a hard time enforcing them. Generally I try to think during memo about potential pairs I could screw up on, and think about some way to remember their order (like if they go alphabetically or something). Not ideal, but it's been working well enough. My memo system is pretty garbage in general though, so when I get back to practicing I should probably do something about that.

 

[abunickabhi]

The way to resolve this is to make rules about how your letter pairs interact. Maybe you decide that adjectives only apply to nouns after them, not before. Sometimes you make rules about specific words. One I ran into recently was the word table. I had an attempt that had TB XP (TaBle XyloPhone) but I executed XP TB. After analyzing the video footage of the attempt and figuring out exactly what I did wrong (a very important step for every multi attempt!), I realized what went wrong and came up with rules to avoid it. I decided that if there was another noun before table, that thing would act as a table, but if there's a noun after table, that thing would be near the table and sort of the focus of attention from the table. What I imagined in the attempt was that the table was near a xylophone, sort of like live music entertainment at a restaurant, so I stuck with that interpretation for TB XP, but decided that XP TB would be a xylophone with food and silverware and stuff on it. Catch these when they occur and they will gradually occur less and less often.

Thanks for the detailed example.

It is an interesting anecdote you shared. Enforcing order in a story is a good deliberate practice. I guess there will be some errors and brain farts happening and cause these kind of DNFs. But the probability of such DNFs will reduce after deliberate practice on enforcing order in stories/sentences.