Worlds. Will it actually happen?

[Neroflux]

T.T no asia? that's sad... oh well next time.

 

[Faz]

Cameron Almasi's house.

 

[CharlieCooper]

given that this is a thread about whether it'll happen or not, rather than where, do i think so? yes.

to answer the second question, europe would be great for me, but new york sounds like a good idea actually. it's not quite as expensive/difficult to get to as other parts of the US. also quite selfishly, i've already been to NY so i'd like to visit somewhere else

 

[AvGalen]

given that this is a thread about whether it'll happen or not, rather than where, do i think so? yes.

to answer the second question, europe would be great for me, but new york sounds like a good idea actually. it's not quite as expensive/difficult to get to as other parts of the US. also quite selfishly, i've already been to NY so i'd like to visit somewhere else

Entirely agree with Charlie: NY is big, public and cheap to get to....but I have been there already. The hostel in Manhatten had a really nice standup-comedy-basement

I initially agreed about the "US has the highest number of cubers". Then I realised that for a high class tournament like Worlds we shouldn't look at "cubers" but at "potential winners" and that makes me think we should have the tournament in Enschede

 

[masterofthebass]

hey, potential winners are also in the US

 

[hippofluff]

Lets have it at Bob's house

That means USA, Canada or Phillipines. I am hoping for nr. 2 or 3

your pick

 

[Stefan]

Let's have it in Toronto again. It's the center of the world, after all! Proof:

 

[Bryan]

I've actually had two separate organizations approach me about wanting to host Worlds or Nationals (in order to fill hotel rooms). I try to explain that I'm not in charge of those, but I can host a regional competition if they want. <SARCASM>But if Ron is still looking for a place, I can double-check with them.</SARCASM>

Arnauld, ever been to central Wisconsin or southern Minnesota? There, it meets your criteria

 

[King Koopa]

I think that it would be nice to be in the US, but we have already had it here. It's like having the olympics in the same place twice in a row, you wouldn't want that. My vote is for Japan...

 

[Dave Campbell]

My intention is not to pile more into the rumour mill, but i figured i would relay what i have heard from my sources - who are always involved in the WCs. They told me that it is looking like 2010 for the Worlds, and they were talking about Germany as the possible location. The funding is the problem for this year, apparently.

If you guys are looking for a large scale competition in Toronto, we will have the Canadian Open here later this year with cash prizes and entry gift packs. It willl be two days, too. So if the Worlds don't happen, you can come and pretend it is like Little Worlds.

 

[AvGalen]

Let's have it in Toronto again. It's the center of the world, after all! Proof:

Incredible.

I always thought the center of a globe (3D)would be....well, at the center. Apperantly I was wrong and it is on the outside (2D)

I know for a fact that the world revolves around Frank Morris. I hereby claim that Worlds will be at the same location as where Frank is during Worlds!

 

[Tyson]

The rumors from Hong Kong being cancelled come from Ron and me. I guess that means they are not really rumors

Last I heard was a possible merger between Worlds and US Open, but nobody LOVES that idea.

Sponsor/money/organisation are all problems that need to be dealt with. I hope we will hear something about this soon from Ron/Tyson/Masayuki Akimoto

What's wrong with the idea of hosting it in the United States? If you think about quality of competition organization, I don't think you can possibly beat my team. My team is the most experienced competition organizing group in the world.

Further disincentive for me to expend effort on this subject matter.

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=SanFranciscoOpen2009

One day, 10:30 AM to 4:30 PM.

 

[ajmorgan25]

The rumors from Hong Kong being cancelled come from Ron and me. I guess that means they are not really rumors

Last I heard was a possible merger between Worlds and US Open, but nobody LOVES that idea.

Sponsor/money/organisation are all problems that need to be dealt with. I hope we will hear something about this soon from Ron/Tyson/Masayuki Akimoto

What's wrong with the idea of hosting it in the United States? If you think about quality of competition organization, I don't think you can possibly beat my team. My team is the most experienced competition organizing group in the world.

Further disincentive for me to expend effort on this subject matter.

http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=SanFranciscoOpen2009

One day, 10:30 AM to 4:30 PM.

I have to admit, that is very impressive. On the other hand, regardless of how well a competition would be organized in the US, Worlds was held here just four years ago and I could easily see how some people would think that a competition as big as the World Championships should have some diversity.

 

[Stefan]

If you guys are looking for a large scale competition in Toronto

To be honest, I just didn't find a "Darmstadt is the center of the world" map but came across one for Toronto. Though, I do like Canada very much. Pity it's so far away.

They told me that it is looking like 2010 for the Worlds, and they were talking about Germany as the possible location.

Germany? The big cube competition void? (see attachment)

 

[Inusagi]

Why isn't it in Asia. I mean, last time we discussed this, evrybody agreed that Asia was the best place, because good cubers is there, and the WC have never been there before.

 

[masterofthebass]

Why isn't it in Asia. I mean, last time we discussed this, evrybody agreed that Asia was the best place, because good cubers is there, and the WC have never been there before.

One word:

Money.


If you pay Ron to have it in Asia, I'm sure he would be open to that idea.

 

[hr.mohr]

Germany? The big cube competition void? (see attachment)

<badjoke>Would it then have to be a void cube competition?</badjoke>

Seriously, Berlin would really be a nice choice.

 

[Tyson]

Many places would be a good choice. There are a number of places that SevenTowns could host worlds and make it work well. The most 'fair' place would be asia, as they have not held one yet. The least 'fair' place would be Europe, as they held 2007 in Budapest already.

Given the situation, in choosing a WC location, I would put the following criteria in this priority:

1. Cost - which is why it's unlikely to be held in asia. If it's not possible, it's not possible. You can whine about it, but that's the sad fact. These things cost money, and depending on how fancy you want it to be, it can cost a lot of money. Because cost is the major issue, priority should be given for a place that can put on a quality competition on a budget. If that's not possible in asia, you'll get your chance at the next one.

2. Quality of the competition - it would be very unfair to host a world championships in Ron's back yard. Because world championship titles are being given out, this cannot just be some local competition. It *MUST* have international participation.

3. Fairness - and because it must have international participation, we need to consider the location. Again, I would say Europe is the least fair because it was held there last year. Asia would be the most fair, but it doesn't really look possible.

I personally think that the real solution to this would be to simply have the WCA hold the competition and take over its jurisdiction, rather then SevenTowns. If this were the case, we could probably work with the Japan Rubik's Cube Association and hold it in Japan. You would see significantly reduced prize money, but again, I don't know anyone who does this for prize money. And if you do, you probably want to reconsider your career choice. I would personally prefer it if no prize money were given out. I'm not saying this because I wouldn't win anything. I'm saying this because when there's prize money, there's even more motivation to cheat.

(By the way, I'd like my check for 250 Euros now please.)

<side rant>... people who were complaining about foreigners taking away the 'glory of being on the podium stand' at the European Championships... *I* actually had that happen to me on the world stage in the one event I am/was competent in. </side rant>

I doubt that anyone here would disagree that if the WCA was solely in charge of hosting the world championships, it would have been planned and ready to go back in 2009. Again, you might not have a dinner buffet and expensive after party, and you probably wouldn't get a cash prize, but it would happen, and it would be well organized.

 

[Dene]

Who needs a silly after party? We can all go and invade some restaurants

 

[anderson26]

Who needs a silly after party? We can all go and invade some restaurants

Exactly.