I need to decide on a method...

[Buggy793]

deleting.

 

[fanwuq]

I find it hard to believe that you can perform "all of these fully except Fridrich." Do you know all the ZBLL for full Petrus 1LLL or all the CMLL for Roux or all the last few case for Tripod?
Why not just stick with keyhole like Arnaud? Fridrich and Petrus would be the easiest to transition into.

Edit:
I should have expected Johannes's comment below. Somehow I remember him making the exact same post a while ago.

 

[Johannes91]

I want to choose between one of these

Why do you want to choose only one? Why not practise several methods at the same time?

 

[Zarxrax]

Do you know fridrich f2l yet? If not you should learn that and see if you like it. It's pretty simple once you grasp whats going on.

I guess you would need to decide what you like better, block building, or fridrich f2l.

 

[ErikJ]

Fridrich is boring, everyone uses it. Choose Roux or Petrus. I have a neat little Petrus variation I came up with. I posted a bunch of tutorials for it on youtube.

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Roux is fun, if you are looking for fun...Petrus is also pretty fun Fridrich is just...general, fast but everyone uses it. Choose any of 'em...I just stick with Fridrich + Japanese color scheme.

Also, I'm gonna have to agree with Wuqiong...I highly doubt you know full CLL. But, ZBLL is not a part of Petrus, so I disagree in that respect.

 

[a small kitten]

Nobody has mentioned ZZ

 

[daeyoungyoon]

I'm learning both petrus and fridrich right now.....I suck and I'm just stating my opinion.

I find the fridrich much easier to actually learn because you pretty much do the same things most of the time. I think it is the fastest though. Only bad thing is to learn all those algs.

If you want to be fast with petrus, you need to be somewhat color neutral to have fast recogniton to make the 2x2x3 block fast which I believe is the most important step. Petrus was the first method I learned...never even learned the beginner's method. After that, I wathced ErikJ's videos which is like the best petrus tutorial I found.

My PB is with petrus when I used my main 3colors for the 2x2x3 block but other than that, I avg pretty much the same with both methods. Personally I like petrus better because to me, its just more fun then solving with fridrich.
And everybody uses fridrich........

One question I have for people who use petrus......
Do you just have to keep practicing to get color neutral or is there some kind of method you can do to get better with it??

 

[Tetris Cube]

If you practice making the block in as few moves as possible, you'll be forced into color neutrality eventually, and it should stick. I used to use Petrus and was color neutral with it, as it was my first method too, but I lost it when I switched to Fridrich. Don't think I'll ever be able to get sub-40 solves with it again unless I work at it, but I'm not that quick anyway.

When you're inspecting the cube, why would you look for a specific corner all of the time? I always looked for ones that could be joined with edges quickly.

And btw aren't there 4 colors on a 2x2x3 block? >_>

 

[daeyoungyoon]

Lawls yea theres 4 colors.......I can't count.

 

[ostracod]

The ZZ method is my favorite method. It's FAST, and it doesn't require as many algorithms. It's designed for ergonomy; during F2L, you only need to make L, U, and R moves, which allows for epic fingertricking. The last layer already has edges oriented, so you have fewer cases. The only downside is EOline, which is not easy to master, but once you do, it's worth it!

As you've probably read, I've developed some techniques for the Tripod method. If you use my Frifri technique, then you only have 5 unsolved pieces in your LL, which means VERY few algorithms to memorize... You can even take it a step further and orient the edges while using Frifri. For this method, it's EXTREMELY useful to master corner commutators. If the edges are solved in the LL (which is commonly occurs), you can use a commutator to finish the cube. This method can involve a LOT of block building if you want it to, but you can also take a Fridrich F2L approach and fill in only 3 slots (then build block on top). I would say the Tripod method is efficient, but not as fast as the ZZ method because it isn't ergonomic.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Go with ZZ
If you have a bit of experience with the cube, especially Petrus, it should be pretty nice for you.
EOLine is hard, but you should be sub-10 with it pretty fast.
And if you have trouble with it, the experience will make it easy to transition into Fridrich or Petrus.

 

[teller]

Fridrich! You gotta start somewhere, and Fridrich is approachable.

The sheer number of algs shouldn't deter you...old algs get boring after awhile and you want to pick up something new. Fridrich lets you get going with a small number of algs and then add to them at your leisure. Eventually, yes, you will know 100+ algs and you'll like it!

 

[teller]

Wait, 100+?
I thought it was:
57 OLL's
21 PLL's

Besides that, it looks like ZZ has a lot of supporters because it's hard, as does Fridrich because it's easy transition.
Do I want a challenge? Oh yes...
I guess I'll look into ZZ.

57 + 21 + "other stuff you come up with deep in the bowels of F2L" = 100+

 

[soccerking813]

If you want any easy transition, go with Fridrich. If you want something new, go with something else. Also take a look at one of the corner-first methods, like Ortega or Waterman. I started learning Ortega at one time, and it was pretty fun to do the first couple of edges. Not a whole lot of algorithms or necessary to learn, and many of the algorithms are short. But I ended up going with Fridrich after about 2 weeks, because I didn't feel like learning a whole new method.
Roux is also pretty fun to do, but I am not good at making the two 2x2x3 blocks, and the edge orientation step is pretty hard to learn.

 

[Lofty]

No one has suggested ZB
But to be a world class speedcuber you probably should have one main method but you can decide that after you can do them all decently. I know I'm under a minute with all these methods and sub-30 with Petrus, they are all really fun!
You can maybe cross off Tripod tho... I don't know of anyone at all who has speedsolved with it and idk how well the LL algs you'll learn will carry over to the other methods. Like COLL can be used in Roux and Petrus and sometimes in Fridrich, and PLL is always good for those OLL skips on any method.

 

[Pseudoprogrammer]

Waterman! Nobody has learned it since the creator himself (as far as I know) and it would be great to bring that timeless system back to life. Waterman averaged faster than Jessica Fridrich with it, but then retired from cubing to run and organic farm... It would be cool to see someone using this.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Wait, 100+?
I thought it was:
57 OLL's
21 PLL's

Besides that, it looks like ZZ has a lot of supporters because it's hard, as does Fridrich because it's easy transition.
Do I want a challenge? Oh yes...
I guess I'll look into ZZ.

Not that with ZZ, it's 28 algorithms for OLL/PLL.
The time learning 50 algorithms can easily be funneled into extra work on EOLine. Note that I still mainly use Fridrich, so I'm not to biased.

 

[spdcbr]

I would suggest the Pochman method. It's useful for blindfold solving.

 

[holypasta]

in defense of fridrich:
fridrich F2L is easy to segue into from keyhole
last time i checked, the world record holder uses fridrich.
fridrich is the most common method, meaning that people who can help you are everywhere.