What are you proud of in your country?

[Ewks]

So on my history class today we talked about American values and as I'm not really interested in history my thoughts started to wonder around. I started thinking of the things that I'm proud of and what I'm not proud of in Finland. I'm most proud of our tecnology and I'm not really proud of our shyness, for examble we won't sit next to anybody in the bus as long as there are free seets left and if we do have to sit next to someone we won't talk to them.

So what are you proud of in your country and what are you not proud of?

 

[Gparker]

im not proud of the war with iraq right now ( USA is where i live) and im not proud of the economy

 

[Kyle Girard]

im not proud of the war with iraq right now ( USA is where i live) and im not proud of the economy

right there with you

 

[Kian]

im not proud of the war with iraq right now ( USA is where i live) and im not proud of the economy

thanks for that refreshingly original remark.

Anyway, I'm proud of the traditional American beliefs in freedom, laissez-faire, and individualism and the good people who still stand for it.

I'm not proud of the collectivist, pro-dictatorial majority.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

I'm proud of the small minority of men and woman serving in Congress who are willing to stand up for their beliefs and for the people, as well as their supporters.

I am not proud that this is a small minority.

 

[Crossed]

So on my history class today we talked about American values and as I'm not really interested in history my thoughts started to wonder around. I started thinking of the things that I'm proud of and what I'm not proud of in Finland. I'm most proud of our tecnology and I'm not really proud of our shyness, for examble we won't sit next to anybody in the bus as long as there are free seets left and if we do have to sit next to someone we won't talk to them.

So what are you proud of in your country and what are you not proud of?

I think the same as you. My country doesn't have any major flaws, even though our economy has been through a rough patch right now.

 

[Daniel Wu]

Anyway, I'm proud of the traditional American beliefs in freedom, laissez-faire, and individualism and the good people who still stand for it.

laissez-faire would be good. too bad the government is messing with that.

 

[Kian]

Anyway, I'm proud of the traditional American beliefs in freedom, laissez-faire, and individualism and the good people who still stand for it.

laissez-faire would be good. too bad the government is messing with that.

agreed. the nation that fought a historic, unparalleled, bloody revolution over a 2 cent tax now supports near trillion dollar bailouts. it's sad.

i am still proud of those that will not sit by idly and accept it, though.

don't tread on me.

 

[Stefan]

I am proud of my good achievements.
I am not proud of anything else.

What does this have to do with "my country"? For example, Ewks, why are you proud of your country's tecnology? What did you do for it? And then why didn't you do the same for other countries?

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Nothing....I cannot be proud of what I did not create or do. I dislike America anyway. Who cares if it's the land of opportunity and whatnot.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

I can't say much because I've lived in so many places in my life (my dad's job keeps on relocating him where he's needed so we've lived in california, japan, Ohio, China, then Ohio again...). Right now I'm in cincinnati Ohio... so I guess I'm an american (I'm also an american citizen beacuse I was born in LA). So.... All I have to say is:



PROUD OF:
1. equal rights
2. freedom of speech
3. right to vote
4. pretty much everything the forefathers wrote I support.

NOT PROUD OF:
1. Economy
2. War on Terrorism (I think that it is right to look for these terrorists, but I also think that we should be worrying about how much money we are throwing into this stuff that we desperately need... but what can I do? I'm not even in High School...)

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

but what can I do? I'm not even in High School...)

Doesn't it make you feel so powerless? No major influence on anything...

 

[d4m4s74]

I forgot what "proud" is with this government

 

[mcciff2112]

but what can I do? I'm not even in High School...)

Doesn't it make you feel so powerless? No major influence on anything...

You don't have to be an adult to make your voice heard. There ha been high schoolers and kids even younger than that who have made a difference by standing up for what they believe in. Don't discourage yourself because you are too young. You can still have your own opinions and the right to inform others of what you think is right.

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

but what can I do? I'm not even in High School...)

Doesn't it make you feel so powerless? No major influence on anything...

You don't have to be an adult to make your voice heard. There ha been high schoolers and kids even younger than that who have made a difference by standing up for what they believe in. Don't discourage yourself because you are too young. You can still have your own opinions and the right to inform others of what you think is right.

I don't really believe in anything...I'm just saying Thanks for the support though

 

[Odin]

Kilroy.Also the fact that we OWNED teh british.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

but what can I do? I'm not even in High School...)

Doesn't it make you feel so powerless? No major influence on anything...

You don't have to be an adult to make your voice heard. There ha been high schoolers and kids even younger than that who have made a difference by standing up for what they believe in. Don't discourage yourself because you are too young. You can still have your own opinions and the right to inform others of what you think is right.

Well... I can't just go into the washington and expect to sway people's thoughts about a war... besides, it's going to end soon... I hope... the pres is against it. Besides... there are enough activists of the war out there...

 

[fanwuq]

I am proud of my good achievements.
I am not proud of anything else.

What does this have to do with "my country"? For example, Ewks, why are you proud of your country's tecnology? What did you do for it? And then why didn't you do the same for other countries?

I agree. With all the globalisation, it doesn't matter where you live and what is your country. Why be super nationalist? I don't think that I'm representing my country at cube competitions and I don't think my country's government cares either. However, it is still cool to have NRs.

Laissez faire is not nationalist, it's just human. Don't make it something special about USA. It's actually a French phrase if you really want to be picky.

Edit:
Wafflecake: To quote my favorite cubist,

I love WaffleCake.

(Fobo911 is proud of everyone who has posted in the word association thread.)

I'm also proud of anyone here who use
the Z perm: M'UM2'UM2'UM'U2M2'U'
the R perm: R'U'RU2'RU2'L'R2URU'LRU2R'U2
the R perm: RUR'F'RU2R'U2R'FRURU2R'U'
the Y perm: FRU'R'U'RUy'RUR'B'RU'R2
Or their mirrors or inverses,
The Face-Permute all Pyraminx method,
The R2 variant noob-freestyle BLD corners method,
The phrases "WTF2L" and "ROF2L" and their variants
and/or whatever else I have contributed to cubing.

 

[Stefan]

What, you can only be proud of yourself now?

No, I specifically said "my achievements", not "myself", didn't I? I'm proud of the good things I've done and I'm on a second level proud of others for their achievements when I played a role, e.g., when people use my methods for blindsolving or when people start to think after I made them (which also happens the other way around, and then I'm thankful. But I digress).

When people graduate from school, do their parents not tell them that they're proud of them?

Maybe, and quite possibly with good reason. They created and nurtured their children.

It's no different being proud of your country.

I neither created nor nurtured nor in any significant way affected "my country" (any country, actually). So how is that no different?

 

[TheBB]

I am proud of my good achievements.
I am not proud of anything else.

What does this have to do with "my country"? For example, Ewks, why are you proud of your country's tecnology? What did you do for it? And then why didn't you do the same for other countries?

National pride may not be well founded in reason, but neither is a lot of other things we do. We have an instinctive desire to form groups based on some possibly far-fetched common ground. National pride is one such thing. Professional pride another ("I'm a mathematician. I'm proud of mathematicians because ..."), alignment with sports teams too (I'm proud of Rosenborg, now topping the Norwegian league, even if I didn't raise a finger to put them there), and so on.

You're right, of course, but that doesn't really change anything.