How Effective would it be to be able to do the Big 3 methods and be able to do them all at the same speed?

[randomness...]

How effective would it be to be able to look for CFOP/ZZ/Roux, choose one and solve the cube at your normal time?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

How effective would it be to be able to look for CFOP/ZZ/Roux, choose one and solve the cube at your normal time?

@abunickabhi
(I believe he is at least CFOP-Roux neutral, maybe also ZZ)

 

[randomness...]

well im asking moreso for the ZZ part, i am roux/cfop neutral

 

[abunickabhi]

@abunickabhi
(I believe he is at least CFOP-Roux neutral, maybe also ZZ)

Yes you are correct. I inspect CFOP, Roux and 3-style in inspection. Doing ZZ 2H is not attractive enough yo.

I won't recommend doing this unless you are sub-10 globally with each of this methods.

 

[Swagrid]

If you get familiar with eo recog you can kinda opt into it with cfop/zz neutrality if you see a nice eo/eocross. Then you can mix in roux too. How good method neutrality is is debatable, but this is a plausible approach to it.

 

[Cuber987]

I am method neutral on pyraminx between LBL, some L4E, petrus, keyhole, and just blockbuilding. I think it is kind of helpful at times. Don't know how it would be for 3x3.

 

[Hazel]

The main argument against method neutrality is that you’re splitting your time and effort into multiple methods rather than putting everything into one, and so you won’t learn as deeply. I don’t personally have experience with neutrality though so can’t say for sure either way.

 

[NmeCuber]

The main argument against method neutrality is that you’re splitting your time and effort into multiple methods rather than putting everything into one, and so you won’t learn as deeply. I don’t personally have experience with neutrality though so can’t say for sure either way.

It's almost the same thing as color neutrality...

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

It's almost the same thing as color neutrality...

No. Simply, no.

 

[NmeCuber]

No. Simply, no.

What I mean is, theoretically with single color solvers it only takes one year, but all the focus is on practicing one color. It takes 5 years for color neutral people to be as good on the all cross colors.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

What I mean is, theoretically with single color solvers it only takes one year, but all the focus is on practicing one color. It takes 5 years for color neutral people to be as good on the all cross colors.

No that is not true. The only thing that has to change is the way you look for F2L pairs. Where white only solvers filter out yellow edges during F2L, color neutral solvers are able to have their mind filter out the edges containing any color they want, depending on what color they start with. You don't have to learn any techniques or whatnot. If it took you 1 year to be sub 20 with white cross, it is not going to take another year before you are sub 20 with yellow cross, another year for sub 20 with orange, etc. Instead, it will probably only take a month or 2 before your mind has gotten used to the skill of filtering out what it should and recognizing in a different way.

 

[randomness...]

No that is not true. The only thing that has to change is the way you look for F2L pairs. Where white only solvers filter out yellow edges during F2L, color neutral solvers are able to have their mind filter out the edges containing any color they want, depending on what color they start with. You don't have to learn any techniques or whatnot. If it took you 1 year to be sub 20 with white cross, it is not going to take another year before you are sub 20 with yellow cross, another year for sub 20 with orange, etc. Instead, it will probably only take a month or 2 before your mind has gotten used to the skill of filtering out what it should and recognizing in a different way.

i can confirm with the month time stamp and each color.
i was color neutral for a bit then i became inconsistent in cross colors, which messed me up.
color neutrality has to be consistent (at least for my case)
thats the only setback to neutrality in colors.{from my poitnt}

 

[Deleted member 36445]

What I mean is, theoretically with single color solvers it only takes one year, but all the focus is on practicing one color. It takes 5 years for color neutral people to be as good on the all cross colors.

that is absurd

 

[NmeCuber]

that is absurd

I literally got that from @abunickabhi I got scammed

 

[cgsg517]

How effective would it be to be able to look for CFOP/ZZ/Roux, choose one and solve the cube at your normal time?

sounds good for fmc

 

[d---]

sounds good for fmc

Not very. Everything points to DR, petrus, and NISS providing the best solutions, so being method neutral in that regard is a better idea

 

[abunickabhi]

I literally got that from @abunickabhi I got scammed

Scammed?

I did not get you.

 

[NmeCuber]

Scammed?

I did not get you.

What I mean is, theoretically with single color solvers it only takes one year, but all the focus is on practicing one color. It takes 5 years for color neutral people to be as good on the all cross colors.

 

[SpedCube]

If you learn all three methods, but are the same speed for all of them.... Then it wouldnt be very effective because you're the same speed at all of them. Idk if that made any sense lol

 

[Hazel]

If you learn all three methods, but are the same speed for all of them.... Then it wouldnt be very effective because you're the same speed at all of them. Idk if that made any sense lol

Well the idea is that if you’re equally fast at multiple methods, you can pick the best method for each scramble. But that opens up another issue—if you’re looking at multiple methods in inspection, you can’t look in-depth at anything. Like if you search for a Roux block, and a cross, and an EOline/EOcross to choose which is best, you don’t have time to look for cross+1 or the Roux/ZZ equivalents.