I need someone who knows ZZ for an Analysis

[randomness...]

Im trying to see the average move count for the Big 3 (CFOP, Roux and ZZ). I know how to do both CFOP and Roux, so i need someone to help me with ZZ.
I dont know how many solves i need, but i want to start at around 15-20 average. Please let me know if you can help (add on; Yes im aware it has been done before, by people like Jperm, i just want to see how true this is)

 

[Discomantis]

I could help but I'd to ask you a few things first: Do you want me to be CN, single color, or dual CN, and do you want me to use ZBLL or OLL and PLL or COLL and EPLL? I only know ~10 ZBLL and I only know a small chunk of COLL so I'd have to look up some algs for most cases and in that case I'd choose the shortest one unless you don't want me to. Also where and how should I send you the data that I gather? I could post it here but this site probably doesn't let me post 20 reconstructions in one message so I'd just have to send the scramble and the move count with little information otherwise.

 

[ruffleduck]

ZZ EOcross with ZBLL would average around 50 moves flat.

 

[Discomantis]

Here is some information about ZZ: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/ZZ_method

 

[randomness...]

I could help but I'd to ask you a few things first: Do you want me to be CN, single color, or dual CN, and do you want me to use ZBLL or OLL and PLL or COLL and EPLL? I only know ~10 ZBLL and I only know a small chunk of COLL so I'd have to look up some algs for most cases and in that case I'd choose the shortest one unless you don't want me to. Also where and how should I send you the data that I gather? I could post it here but this site probably doesn't let me post 20 reconstructions in one message so I'd just have to send the scramble and the move count with little information otherwise.

I would need it to be dual CN (white and blue), with OLL and PLL. As far as sending me reconstructions, i can DM you my email, where you can send them.

 

[Discomantis]

I would need it to be dual CN (white and blue),

What orientation could I start with? I don't get what you mean by white and blue.

 

[NmeCuber]

What orientation could I start with? I don't get what you mean by white and blue.

Prob white or blue cross

 

[Discomantis]

Prob white or blue cross

I mean what orientations can I do EOline from? You can solve white EOline and blue EOline from 4 different orientations. Also do you want me to do ZZ-CT or just ZZ? ZZ-CT is ZZ but you solve a cross, not a line. Wait never mind you're not the creator of this thread oops.

 

[Swagrid]

Im trying to see the average move count for the Big 3 (CFOP, Roux and ZZ). I know how to do both CFOP and Roux, so i need someone to help me with ZZ.
I dont know how many solves i need, but i want to start at around 15-20 average. Please let me know if you can help (add on; Yes im aware it has been done before, by people like Jperm, i just want to see how true this is)

Hello, average around high/mid 9 with ZZ.

ZZ-CT is ZZ but you solve a cross, not a line

misinformation is being spread over the internet

ZZ with EOCross is called ZZ.
ZZ-CT is some funky last slot stuff where you solve CO with an F2L edge and EP/CP with the F2L corner.

 

[randomness...]

I mean what orientations can I do EOline from? You can solve white EOline and blue EOline from 4 different orientations. Also do you want me to do ZZ-CT or just ZZ? ZZ-CT is ZZ but you solve a cross, not a line. Wait never mind you're not the creator of this thread oops.

I dont know a whole lot about ZZ,so the orientations would be up to you. I personally dont know it so you would have to take some liberties with it. (hi swag)

 

[randomness...]

Hello, average around high/mid 9 with ZZ.



misinformation is being spread over the internet

ZZ with EOCross is called ZZ.
ZZ-CT is some funky last slot stuff where you solve CO with an F2L edge and EP/CP with the F2L corner.

yo, nice i might need you too then

 

[Discomantis]

orientations would be up to you

Alright then I'll do white EOline only from any orientation and I'm really stupid for thinking ZZ-CT started with a cross. (I found out it doesn't in less than 10 seconds.)

 

[Thom S.]

What orientation could I start with? I don't get what you mean by white and blue.

Probably because the second most used colour-sceme (today referred to as Japanese) has white and blue opposite from each other instead of the white and yellow most of us are accustomed to.

 

[randomness...]

no its the original white/ yellow, im not the sharpest. I can't memorize that color scheme.

Probably because the second most used colour-sceme (today referred to as Japanese) has white and blue opposite from each other instead of the white and yellow most of us are accustomed to.

i meant for the Down face -.-

 

[randomness...]

What orientation could I start with? I don't get what you mean by white and blue.

the Color scheme is standard.
i mean the Down face for CN can be either white or blue.
(sorry if this is confusing you, im just not the sharpest)

 

[Discomantis]

the Color scheme is standard.
i mean the Down face for CN can be either white or blue.
(sorry if this is confusing you, im just not the sharpest)

So do you mean only white and blue EOline?

 

[randomness...]

So do you mean only white and blue EOline?

yes