How Did You Become Color Neutral?

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I'm averaging 20 seconds on 3x3 right now and want to be color neutral, are there any tips (other then doing solves on unspecified color cross)
ive been trying to start color neutral solves since i was 35 avg.
 
I'm averaging 20 seconds on 3x3 right now and want to be color neutral, are there any tips (other then doing solves on unspecified color cross)
ive been trying to start color neutral solves since i was 35 avg.
The best advice is from Feliks' blog:
"The hardest part about switching to color neutrality after doing one cross for a long time is becoming familiar with seeing *patterns* as opposed to *colors*. For example, if you ask any full-color neutral solver what color cross they did right at the end of a solve, in most cases they won’t be able to remember. This might seem strange, but it’s because after doing color-neutral solves for so long, it becomes so subconscious that they’re not even thinking about individual colors, only the patterns that come up during the solve. This is your end goal, but obviously, when you start learning CN you’ll need to intentionally decide and think about which color cross to do. "
What I'm getting from this is that color-neutral solvers should be seeing both colors and black+white when they are solving: colors for the start + patterns, black+white for the patterns+lookahead.
 
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I'm averaging 20 seconds on 3x3 right now and want to be color neutral, are there any tips (other then doing solves on unspecified color cross)
ive been trying to start color neutral solves since i was 35 avg.
You can train your LL on different colors than what you're used to help make parts of the CN solves more familiar. In practice, the only real way is to just do lots of solves on the other colors and suck it up that you're gonna be slower for a while. I used to let the first 6 days of the week each be for solving only on one color (like Monday = Red Cross, Tuesday = orange cross , etc) then let the 7th day be for combining all of them and trying to do what cross seemed best for each scramble.
 
I used to be color neutral and at some point I must have stopped being color neutral because I have only been dual color neutral for years. Not a clue when I randomly stopped being color neutral, or why.
A similar thing happened to me. I started out color neutral, but then I came across one of J perm's older videos and in it he said something along the lines of knowing the color scheme helps and I miss interpreted that as if you don't know the color scheme then you aren't color neutral. So I switched to dual color neutral because of that and I tried to become color neutral and everything went well except for the fact that I didn't know the color scheme for other crosses, so I spent 3 months trying to learn the color scheme for crosses until I figured out that it wasn't really that important.
 
I was color neutral pretty much as soon as I had started cubing. I even was fully CN with ZZ for a while, but eventually I had switched to single cross color. I think single color isn't as bad as people make it to be, and for ZZ especially it may actually be better for an individual.
 
You can train your LL on different colors than what you're used to help make parts of the CN solves more familiar. In practice, the only real way is to just do lots of solves on the other colors and suck it up that you're gonna be slower for a while. I used to let the first 6 days of the week each be for solving only on one color (like Monday = Red Cross, Tuesday = orange cross , etc) then let the 7th day be for combining all of them and trying to do what cross seemed best for each scramble.
i have LL recognition by pattern regardless of color
 
i have LL recognition by pattern regardless of color
In that case you should do f2l-only solves on whatever color you are deciding to practice. Make sure you remind yourself of what you need to look for and what you don't need to look for before starting, as often times people will pause for a second to realize what cross color they are doing. This becomes natural eventually, however you should do this at the start as it will tremendously help you improve. Sometimes this happens to color neutral solvers when thought they did a different cross color, and then when they look for pieces they thought they needed, they can't find anything, and when they switch what cross color they thought they were solving on to what cross color they had to solve on it would take a second for them to filter out the right colors as the color patterns have changed, just like how someone earlier pointed out. Also, make sure you can plan your cross and cross+1 if you are at the level where you can do that.
 
I was color neutral pretty much as soon as I had started cubing. I even was fully CN with ZZ for a while, but eventually I had switched to single cross color. I think single color isn't as bad as people make it to be, and for ZZ especially it may actually be better for an individual.
as far as color neutral goes, if i see a better cross in a scramble i want to be able to execute the F2L to match the good cross
 
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slowly learning red, this was a beautifully planned (really accidently) cross+1 and easy F2L into OLL and Tperm PLL
 
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I decided that currently I don't want to get fully color neutral but I'm improving my White/Yellow Neutrality.

I'm still not good enough to find X-Crosses, so I do not have much benefit from full color neutrality.
And there are some world class solvers like Ruihang that are only White/Yellow neutral and Yiheng Wang almost broke the WR with white only.

Tymon said in a recent interview that White/Yellow is almost as good as full color neutrality, because it's easier to choose the color and this way you can spend more time in your cross solution.

I still do some solves on other cross colors, especially in slow solves but for the moment I'm OK with my 80% White 20% Yellow and try to get to 50/50 between this colors.
 
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