Unofficial Competition: Houston Spring 2009

[Bob]

What? How did you know I am 14? I have been to 2 Official competitions. So I think i have enough experience. Plus, Sapan can help me out and stuff

I know everything.

Are you saying that young people shouldn't organize competitions?

No, I'm suggesting young inexperienced people shouldn't organize competitions.

 

[blade740]

Not having a venue is a big deal. They don't want to approve a competiton that may not even take place. What will you do if you can't find a venue? What if someone books a flight to attend and you have to change the date? These are very important things.

There's no reason a 14-year-old can't run a competition. A competent 10 year old could run one if he tried. No offense, but you don't seem competent.

 

[pjk]

Getting a venue is the hardest part in my opinion. I don't see how you can announce a competition (even unofficial) if you don't have a venue. You most likely need to get a venue several months in advance to make sure you have it reserved.

 

[Rubikgenius]

blade740,

You are right about the venue being a big deal , that's why I put TBA, instead of putting a random location and then changing it. I just need 12 people to register and then I will get a venue. I think I am competent because I have already run an unofficial competition singlehandedly, so I know the mechanics of running a competition.

P.S. I am working to get a venue.

For example take a look at Brasília Open 2009, it is an official competition without a venue that is announced on the WCA website. They shouldn't do that.

 

[Bob]

For example take a look at Brasília Open 2009, it is an official competition without a venue that is announced on the WCA website. They shouldn't do that.

But Pedro's the man.

 

[Rubikgenius]

Are you saying that I am not trustworthy?

 

[Bomber]

No, he's saying "Pedro's the man."

P.S SIGNATURE!

 

[IamWEB]

Are you saying that I am not trustworthy?

He's saying you're inexperienced.

 

[Rubikgenius]

Yeah Yeah I see the signature. All I am trying to do is to get people to register.

I am not inexperienced

I have organized an unofficial competition, so does that count?

 

[IamWEB]

I just need 12 people to register and then I will get a venue.

You just need a venue and the you will maybe get 12 people to register.

P.S. I am working to get a venue.

Well just see if at least 12+ people are interested, and then get a venue, announce the venue, get the comp. approved by the WCA, and THEN have people register.

 

[Anthony]

Just take your time. I'll be there for sure if it's official, which it will most likely end up being if you organize everything properly. In all honesty, it seems like the biggest arguement in this thread is whether or not you're experienced, and really, two competitions is nothing when you compare it to Bob or Tyson with, I don't know, 30ish. But, just prove you can do this right, if you can find a venue, you'll definately get enough competitors. So just try not to **** off the people whose approval you need in order to make a competition official.

 

[Rubikgenius]

That is an excellent idea. Thank you

Anthony,

so you and your brothers are going to come if it official?

 

[Anthony]

Oh btw, I'd also like to compete in Pyraminx, Clock, and MultiBLD. Just to throw that out there... If we have other people who want to, as well as the time, then we should.

 

[Rubikgenius]

Did you get my email?

 

[Pedro]

For example take a look at Brasília Open 2009, it is an official competition without a venue that is announced on the WCA website. They shouldn't do that.

But Pedro's the man.

LOL! No, Bob, you're the man

just to make this clear:

I'm not organizing the competition personally (I'll probably help with the logistics during the comp, though), since it's not in my town

We do have a "backup" venue. We're looking for a better/bigger one, and will most likely find it, but if everything else fails, we have a place

 

[Rubikgenius]

I have a "backup venue" also. I am looking for a bigger place as well.

 

[Anthony]

Anthony,

so you and your brothers are going to come if it official?

Yeah, if it's official there's no way we could miss it. I'd probably bring a couple friends along with me. I wouldn't worry about who's gonna show up yet, at the last competition in Austin we had 40ish, so without a doubt we could easily get 12. Just get a venue.

 

[Tyson]

Let me present two scenarios regarding the claim that Ron approved the competition.

1. If Ron did indeed approve of your competition, then it was a misunderstanding. Requests in the United States are passed to me. Requests in Europe are passed to him.

2. If Ron did not approve of the competition, then this organizer is even more of a liar than before.

In either case, flaunting the fact that Ron approved the competition again shows that the organizer is absolutely incompetent. I have absolutely no intention of approving this competition by this organizer. I have less intention of ever approving anything organized by this organizer. I will most likely never approve of a competition if this organizer is in any way associated with the organizational team. I would prefer that this organizer not even act in any official capacity, such as judging.

And by the way, I heard that your unofficial competition was a disaster.

So to future organizers in Texas, I would not ask for help from this organizer, or have this organizer in any way involved with the administration of your event. It will most likely not be approved.

I don't see my opinion on this matter changing unless there is an astronomical evolution in this organizer's maturity. I do not expect that to happen any sooner than 2032.

 

[Bryan]

Cubegeek,

I think people still remember your fiasco from last year (http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3517)

So when you say the venue is TBA, people assume it's because you don't have a venue yet. I'm guessing that when Pedro went to get the approval of the upcoming competition from Tyson and said the venue is TBA, I'm willing to bet that Pedro proactively told Tyson he had a backup venue secured and was looking for a larger one. Since Pedro knows what it takes for a competition, he can give Tyson all that information in advance.

Just because you've run an unofficial competition doesn't mean you have experience. There's a huge difference in running a competition with 5 people and a competition with 30 people. When you went to the Austin competitions, did you help with anything to see what the organizers have to do?

Also, if you're looking for interest, then state, "I'm looking to see who would be interested in a competition in Houston on June 13th." Or, maybe ask the Austin organizers if they could send out something to the people who came to the Austin competition.

Also, when you say you have a venue, is it secured? Or can someone else still rent it out from underneath you?

 

[Tyson]

So when you say the venue is TBA, people assume it's because you don't have a venue yet. I'm guessing that when Pedro went to get the approval of the upcoming competition from Tyson and said the venue is TBA, I'm willing to bet that Pedro proactively told Tyson he had a backup venue secured and was looking for a larger one. Since Pedro knows what it takes for a competition, he can give Tyson all that information in advance.

Pedro, by the way, is the main point person of an entire continent. Like the country of Africa, but bigger.

Palin for President 2012!

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45611&postcount=55

Yeah, I don't feel bad at all about the attitude I'm taking against this situation. Clearly said organizer has not even given the slightest thought to anything.

Though I must say, there are only a few people who manage to stigmatize themselves for a lifetime. And congratulations, you're one of the few.