[Help Thread] LEOR Discussion & Help

[ProStar]

Discussion thread for the LEOR method.


How to do EO intuitively and efficiently? Currently I just use @Pyjam's alg sheet. Also, can you do both EOStripe steps at once or is it best to just do EO then place DF+DB?

 

[brododragon]

How to do F2L intuitively and efficiently?

Isn't just like ZZF2L? Try finding some tutorials on ZZF2L. I know @WarriorCatCuber has some good tutorial links.

 

[RedstoneTim]

For Left Block, you should definitely check out some Roux First Block tutorials, for example Kian Mansour's or teoidus' videos.

For EOStripe, there's an alg sheet of EO cases. It's usually best to influence the edges while solving EO, similar to EOLine. A trick to do EOStripe more efficiently is also to make sure that the D center is on top after EO so that you only have to place DF and DB at UB and UF, respectively, and finish with an r2. (This should be more efficient than having the center solved and inserting the edges separately.)

Right Block can be done CFOP-like by inserting the cross edge and then solving the two pairs <RU>-gen.
If you want to get more efficient at building the Right Block (this is most advantageous for one-handed solving and to a lesser degree also for two-handed solving), you can learn how ZZ users do it (see Conrad Rider's text based tutorial and Phil Yu's video tutorial). Here it is important to remember that you can also use cross-corner pairs for blockbuilding.

Generally, watching example solves (Roux for Left Block and ZZ for Right Block and Last Layer or just the ones in the LEOR Example Solve Game) should also help you.

 

[ProStar]

Isn't just like ZZF2L? Try finding some tutorials on ZZF2L. I know @WarriorCatCuber has some good tutorial links.

Oh lol I'm stupid. I meant EO

For Left Block, you should definitely check out some Roux First Block tutorials, for example Kian Mansour's or teoidus' videos.

For EOStripe, there's an alg sheet of EO cases. It's usually best to influence the edges while solving EO, similar to EOLine. A trick to do EOStripe more efficiently is also to make sure that the D center is on top after EO so that you only have to place DF and DB at UB and UF, respectively, and finish with an r2. (This should be more efficient than having the center solved and inserting the edges separately.)

Right Block can be done CFOP-like by inserting the cross edge and then solving the two pairs <RU>-gen.
If you want to get more efficient at building the Right Block (this is most advantageous for one-handed solving and to a lesser degree also for two-handed solving), you can learn how ZZ users do it (see Conrad Rider's text based tutorial and Phil Yu's video tutorial). Here it is important to remember that you can also use cross-corner pairs for blockbuilding.

Generally, watching example solves (Roux for Left Block and ZZ for Right Block and Last Layer or just the ones in the LEOR Example Solve Game) should also help you.

Thanks!

 

[mukerflap]

all the FB info you need
But LEOR is still trash

 

[ProStar]

all the FB info you need
But LEOR is still trash

Look! We've found the new @Owen Morrison!

 

[ribbon method]

If leor is so similar to zz then what variants of leor can u make up from the knowledge that leor is similar to zz and if u did then tell me the steps plz if u can that would be great

 

[Username: Username:]

plz if u can that would be great

if I can understand you mean, "What are the possible LEOR variants?" there are two LEOR variants I know, EOMR and LEOR-b both which you can find in the wiki.

 

[ribbon method]

I asked what variants could u come up with

 

[Username: Username:]

I asked what variants could u come up with

well, I don't really see anymore variants, if you go outside EODFDF, then you can't really explore that too since they're ZZ variants

 

[ribbon method]

Ok well I mean leor is kinda a variant of the zz method

 

[Username: Username:]

Ok well I mean leor is kinda a variant of the zz method

oh, so like you mean explore ZZ variants? like you can't really ask for that people need to explore that on their own (except if you're making a method creation comp lol) and ZZ has many, many variants.

 

[ribbon method]

Like add zz variants to leor to make new leor variants cause leor and zz are similar

 

[RedstoneTim]

Like add zz variants to leor to make new leor variants cause leor and zz are similar

You can basically apply every ZZ variant to LEOR as long as it starts from an EO223 (when FB/LB and EOStripe are solved). Examples of this would be LEOR-CT, LEOR-d (with CP), LEOR-c and so on. For more variants, refer to the section about ZZ variants.

 

[Quốc Hưng]

Umm...I think LEOR still a trash method for 2H

 

[Reirto-RRNF]

Umm...I think LEOR still a trash method for 2H

I don't think so, LEOR is still an ok method for 2H, not amazing but still ok

 

[Quốc Hưng]

I don't think so, LEOR is still an ok method for 2H, not amazing but still ok

:\ Nah, but to get faster, ZZ or roux will easier

 

[DuckubingCuber347]

Umm...I think LEOR still a trash method for 2H

I think vanilla LEOR is pretty bad for 2H (trash is to strong of a word) but LEOR-B is actually pretty good and you can combine the first two steps together in inspection with either FB on dL+DB or dbl+FL pair.

 

[Quốc Hưng]

I think vanilla LEOR is pretty bad for 2H (trash is to strong of a word) but LEOR-B is actually pretty good and you can combine the first two steps together in inspection with either FB on dL+DB or DBL+FL.

Yep

 

[Reirto-RRNF]

Of course, i just said ok, not good

:\ Nah, but to get faster, ZZ or roux will easier