The cubing argument thread

[Milominx]

They make up the minority. The masses overall like it, but you're saying its bad because 100 maybe 200 out of like 2 million cubers don't like it. They might have more influence, but their opinion won't count for more if it's a plain vote.

Mine is quite bad im thinking about getting a RS4M with a bit of My Christmas money. It Also makes a weird squeeky Noise when i turn. And several magnets fell out.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

They make up the minority. The masses overall like it, but you're saying its bad because 100 maybe 200 out of like 2 million cubers don't like it. They might have more influence, but their opinion won't count for more if it's a plain vote.

what is the best solver that uses it?

 

[BenChristman1]

They make up the minority. The masses overall like it, but you're saying its bad because 100 maybe 200 out of like 2 million cubers don't like it. They might have more influence, but their opinion won't count for more if it's a plain vote.

Maybe tell me where you got those numbers, especially the 2 million one?

 

[Jam88]

Maybe tell me where you got those numbers, especially the 2 million one?

OK, 2 million is grossly understated. I've heard that 2% of the population solve, so actually 140 million. The 100-200 is top 20 in 4x4 and 80-180 yters

what is the best solver that uses it?

idk

 

[DNF_Cuber]

OK, 2 million is grossly understated. I've heard that 2% of the population solve, so actually 140 million. The 100-200 is top 20 in 4x4 and 80-180 yters

idk

if 2% is true like 5% of those people are actual speedcubers. If the best and most influential solvers don't like it, it probably isn't good.

 

[Jam88]

if 2% is true like 5% of those people are actual speedcubers. If the best and most influential solvers don't like it, it probably isn't good.

We get back to the same point I was making earlier. You seem to be giving way more weight to the opinions of the best solvers. Just because they are better, doesn't mean their opinions count for more.
I will give an example.
Bill Gates doesn't like the iPhone 20.
That hypothetical phone has all 5 star reviews.
So you would say, just because Bill Gates doesn't like it, no one should and it is trash?!

 

[DNF_Cuber]

We get back to the same point I was making earlier. You seem to be giving way more weight to the opinions of the best solvers. Just because they are better, doesn't mean their opinions count for more.

Their opinions do matter more. The people that are solving at the highest level are the ones who know their equipment well and need the best. Also you aren't siting millions of people liking the YLM, you are citing a dozen or so reviews.

 

[BenChristman1]

We get back to the same point I was making earlier. You seem to be giving way more weight to the opinions of the best solvers. Just because they are better, doesn't mean their opinions count for more.

I will give an example.
Bill Gates doesn't like the iPhone 20.
That hypothetical phone has all 5 star reviews.
So you would say, just because Bill Gates doesn't like it, no one should and it is trash?!

He is also the CEO of a rival company so...

 

[Jam88]

Their opinions do matter more. The people that are solving at the highest level are the ones who know their equipment well and need the best. Also you aren't siting millions of people liking the YLM, you are citing a dozen or so reviews.

I'm going to stop arguing now. I can't seem to get the point across.

 

[Milominx]

We get back to the same point I was making earlier. You seem to be giving way more weight to the opinions of the best solvers. Just because they are better, doesn't mean their opinions count for more.
I will give an example.
Bill Gates doesn't like the iPhone 20.
That hypothetical phone has all 5 star reviews.
So you would say, just because Bill Gates doesn't like it, no one should and it is trash?!

The faster people have more experience with what is good if i only had a Rubiks Brand i would think that my YLM is gold, so yes they do matter more.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

I'm going to stop arguing now. I can't seem to get the point across.

Cough Cough since you have no point Cough cough

 

[Jam88]

The faster people have more experience with what is good if i only had a Rubiks Brand i would think that my YLM is gold, so yes they do matter more.

And yet the faster ones are sponsored by Rubik?

 

[DNF_Cuber]

And yet the faster ones are sponsored by Rubik?

they don't use rubik's brands. Also it is only Leo and Max I think.

 

[BenChristman1]

And yet the faster ones are sponsored by Rubik?

They don't have to use Rubik's brand cubes, though. I think the main reason they did that was because they get to use whatever cubes they want, but they still get merch, and because they are sponsored by the original makers of the cube, they get more publicity because they aren't supporting "knock-offs." (The general public doesn't care what cubes they use, they just know that they are solving them really fast.)

 

[Jam88]

they don't use rubik's brands. Also it is only Leo and Max I think.

And Dana and Jack Cai.

They don't have to use Rubik's brand cubes, though. I think the main reason they did that was because they get to use whatever cubes they want, but they still get merch, and because they are sponsored by the original makers of the cube, they get more publicity because they aren't supporting "knock-offs." (The general public doesn't care what cubes they use, they just know that they are solving them really fast.)

But Dana, Leo, and Max are sponsored by Gan already, so they are

 

[DNF_Cuber]

And Dana and Jack Cai.

But Dana, Leo, and Max are sponsored by Gan already, so they are

well the rubik's sponsorship is just a publicity thing. Also we are pretty far away from the YLM argument now.

 

[Jam88]

well the rubik's sponsorship is just a publicity thing. Also we are pretty far away from the YLM argument now.

so its not doing anything for rubiks
yes we are.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

so its not doing anything for rubiks
yes we are.

well rubiks does get some world record holders supporting them. It's not like a non cuber can tell what's a rubiks brand and what isn't

 

[Nmile7300]

It's bigger than a standard 3x3. In my book, anything bigger than a 3x3 should be a big cube. Now, change my mind. Also the YLM is the best 4x4

how is a cube that can be solved in <20 seconds a big cube? Also if the YLM is the best 4x4 why does nobody use it and it get bad reviews.

Hello? I use it
If you call 5 star reviews bad, then yes

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I am talking about significant world class solvers. Also look at youcuber's reviews of the cube.

They make up the minority. The masses overall like it, but you're saying its bad because 100 maybe 200 out of like 2 million cubers don't like it. They might have more influence, but their opinion won't count for more if it's a plain vote.

Mine is quite bad im thinking about getting a RS4M with a bit of My Christmas money. It Also makes a weird squeeky Noise when i turn. And several magnets fell out.

what is the best solver that uses it?

Maybe tell me where you got those numbers, especially the 2 million one?

OK, 2 million is grossly understated. I've heard that 2% of the population solve, so actually 140 million. The 100-200 is top 20 in 4x4 and 80-180 yters

idk

if 2% is true like 5% of those people are actual speedcubers. If the best and most influential solvers don't like it, it probably isn't good.

We get back to the same point I was making earlier. You seem to be giving way more weight to the opinions of the best solvers. Just because they are better, doesn't mean their opinions count for more.
I will give an example.
Bill Gates doesn't like the iPhone 20.
That hypothetical phone has all 5 star reviews.
So you would say, just because Bill Gates doesn't like it, no one should and it is trash?!

Their opinions do matter more. The people that are solving at the highest level are the ones who know their equipment well and need the best. Also you aren't siting millions of people liking the YLM, you are citing a dozen or so reviews.

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He is also the CEO of a rival company so...

I'm going to stop arguing now. I can't seem to get the point across.

Cough Cough since you have no point Cough cough

And yet the faster ones are sponsored by Rubik?

they don't use rubik's brands. Also it is only Leo and Max I think.

They don't have to use Rubik's brand cubes, though. I think the main reason they did that was because they get to use whatever cubes they want, but they still get merch, and because they are sponsored by the original makers of the cube, they get more publicity because they aren't supporting "knock-offs." (The general public doesn't care what cubes they use, they just know that they are solving them really fast.)

PERSONAL PREFERENCE PEOPLE OH MY GOSH

 

[Jam88]

PERSONAL PREFERENCE PEOPLE OH MY GOSH

How long did it take you to find all those posts to quote
Yh i guess it is, but @DNF_Cuber was completely dissing it, when it is not a bad option