The cubing argument thread

[Deleted member 55877]

Didn't you say the RS3m sucked a few days ago?

I didn't see "RS3M" in Nir's comment

 

[Nir1213]

Didn't you say the RS3m sucked a few days ago?

i was overreacting, it more like a bit more than average, but not THAT good. But its still better than gan 11 m pro.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

i was overreacting, it more like a bit more than average, but not THAT good. But its still better than gan 11 m pro.

how are the RS3m 2020 and 11mpro not THAT good. The only cubes that I would main over either are WRm 2020 and my main, the Valk M

 

[ProStar]

RUS u perms are bad because of how inconsistent they are. RU u perms are bad because they are slow. MU is best, but only if you use left hand for M moves.

I swear, if you use right hand for M moves, you need to switch to left asap.

It's amazing how confident you are at stating completely ridiculous and incorrect "objective facts"

 

[Nir1213]

how are the RS3m 2020 and 11mpro not THAT good. The only cubes that I would main over either are WRm 2020 and my main, the Valk M

rs3m is an okay cube, the problem is that it has weak magnets (you can get standards for another dollar though)
the cube is glossy frosted which i dont like in my opinion
its a bit heavy, but it doesnt do anything to my solves unless i solve alot, where my hands hurt.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

It's amazing how confident you are at stating completely ridiculous and incorrect "objective facts"

Did I say MU is "objectively" better? No. Idk where you got the term "objective facts" from.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

rs3m is an okay cube, the problem is that it has weak magnets (you can get standards for another dollar though)
the cube is glossy which i dont like in my opinion
its a bit heavy.

It's called frosted!!!!!!

 

[Nir1213]

It's called frosted!!!!!!

sorry.


also one of gan 11 m pro's cons is that its too light. The cube can sometimes slip from your hands.

 

[ProStar]

Did I say MU is "objectively" better? No. Idk where you got the term "objective facts" from.

Saying something is better without clarifying that it's an opinion implies that said thing is a fact and not an opinion. You said:

MU is best, but only if you use left hand for M moves.

While I agree, this is in no way a fact. However, never in your post did you say that it was an opinion but simply declared these things as facts.

 

[MJS Cubing]

also one of gan 11 m pro's cons is that its too light. The cube can sometimes slip from your hands.

I agree. One of Gan's flaws is that they are making cubes too light. Not only does the lightness make it feel cheap, but it makes the cube very weird. A certain amount of weight is good. I wouldn't go too much below the Valk elite, because I really like the weight, but it doesn't feel cheap.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

I think for two-handed solving, my preference is around 75 grams. The main reason I'm getting the super-light-65-g Guhong v4 is because I like lightweight cubes for OH.

 

[DNF_Cuber]

I agree. One of Gan's flaws is that they are making cubes too light. Not only does the lightness make it feel cheap, but it makes the cube very weird. A certain amount of weight is good. I wouldn't go too much below the Valk elite, because I really like the weight, but it doesn't feel cheap.

Yeah, it also makes the cube feel less stable.

 

[MJS Cubing]

Yeah, it also makes the cube feel less stable.

Lighter pieces also means that magnets feel stronger. Being someone who like slightly weak magnets, I don't like lighter puzzles.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

I like my magnets to be not clicky, but still moderately strong. Great example is the MGC Elite 2x2's magnets.

 

[Tabe]

rs3m is an okay cube, the problem is that it has weak magnets (you can get standards for another dollar though)
the cube is glossy frosted which i dont like in my opinion
its a bit heavy, but it doesnt do anything to my solves unless i solve alot, where my hands hurt.

The cube becomes glossy once you solve on it for a little while. Mine is completely glossy.

 

[BenChristman1]

also gan is the apple of cubing. "NEW INNOVATIONS" and high prices for no reason.

As the owner of several Apple products, this isn’t true at all. Apple may make their products look the same, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the hardware is the same. Every year, they update their processors on their phones, upgrade their software, and release new products. Just because they may look the same does not make them functionally the same. While I agree that Gan has not been very creative over the last couple years, ever since the X, they cannot be compared to Apple.

 

[MJS Cubing]

gan 11 m pro is worse than budget cubes really.

also gan is the apple of cubing. "NEW INNOVATIONS" and high prices for no reason.

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gan Sucks soooooooo much it's not even funny. It's cool to say your cube has magnets in the core, but it doesnt do anything that edge/corner magnets do, and its more than 10 times the price of a budget cube set up like this. Looking at it from a performance standpoint, the gan 11 m is not 7 times better than the RS3M 2020, but it costs 7 times the price. I've already said it, but Gan is like apple in that they are just releasing the same cube with a different price and some clickbaity feature like core magnets, and robbing loyalists of their brand. Some people claim they all feel different, but If you can put on a blindfold and tell me every Gan cube since the X (The last cube that actually had something going for it) I will buy you every single on of the cubes you named.

 

[SH03L4C3]

And with the gouhong v4 light cubes don't have to break the bank.

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[Nir1213]

also something wrong with GAN is that they always try to make their cubes light, as if everyone had baby hands, so they couldnt lift heavy things, except a 63 gram object..

Making their cubes heavier a bit might actually be better for cubers when speedsolving the cube, seriously.

a 3 year old girl solves a 3x3 in 47 seconds with a dayan zhanchi 50 mm, which is 73 grams, and she has no problem with weight.

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[Deleted member 54663]

@Nir1213 Unless you have tried the Gan 11 M pro or other Gan cubes, you cannot say "Gan sucks". I do agree that Gan is overpriced and has little value per dollar, but saying it's worse than the RS3M is not objective, and you can only make that comparison rightfully if you have both cubes and solved with them equally.