NEW TIMES NEW METHODS!

[MAGIK]

Ive recently found that ive maxed out my time using fridrich....ive gotten down to 35 secs but ive been wanting to learn new methods....i want to learn ROUX OR PETRUS.....I just want to know which you all prefer and why, also please include links to sites to learn them....are there any VIDEOS to learn ROUX?

 

[BigGreen]

Ive recently found that ive maxed out my time using fridrich....ive gotten down to 35 secs but ive been wanting to learn new methods....i want to learn ROUX OR PETRUS.....I just want to know which you all prefer and why, also please include links to sites to learn them....are there any VIDEOS to learn ROUX?

welll there used to but he removed them.

 

[James Kobel]

I don't get it, why did Richard take them down?

 

[BigGreen]

I don't get it, why did Richard take them down?

this was a comment on one of his videos
"They weren't good enough for most people so i just deleted them. "

sad =(

 

[pjk]

I don't get it, why did Richard take them down?

He was getting tons of complaints about how bad they were and what he needs to do to fix them. Instead of fixing them, he simply removed them to solve the problem. He made those videos back when he was around 25 seconds avg. He is now around 15, so of course there is a lot more work that can to be done.

I've recently found that ive maxed out my time using fridrich....ive gotten down to 35 secs but ive been wanting to learn new methods....i want to learn ROUX OR PETRUS.....I just want to know which you all prefer and why, also please include links to sites to learn them....are there any VIDEOS to learn ROUX?

If you want to switch methods, I understand. However, you can get sub-20 with Fridrich quite easily.

This guide shows some common methods, and how to learn them. Also, I deleted your other post that was identical to this one.

 

[byu]

However, you can get sub-20 with Fridrich quite easily.

It's not really that easy, it requires a lot of work and practice. but I hope to be sub-20 sometime soon.

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Petrus is good...the best Rouxer (BigGreen) is faster than the best Petruser (Erik Johnson) though...so it's your choice.

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

However, you can get sub-20 with Fridrich quite easily.

It's not really that easy, it requires a lot of work and practice. but I hope to be sub-20 sometime soon.

and roux doesn't?
every method does. who's to say fridrich isn't actually the easiest to get to sub-20??

 

[bundat]

ErikJ is the fastest Petrus user?
I thought it was Timothy Sun or Johannes Laire... or am I mistaken..?

Anyway, IMO Fridrich is the easiest to get sub-20 with because of the MASSIVE amount of information available on it (tons of websites, guides, sample solve videos including WRs, etc.) Even the F2L has been analyzed and all cases have been isolated into algs(if that were possible for block-building...that would be awesome), so if you don't want to think too much and just be robotic about learning it with memorization and just pure speed, you can do so. Not that that's a good way of doing things.

As I said in another thread:

...F2L, which has tons of guides out there, both written and video, with specialized techniques like multislotting and the like also having their own guides, and all cases have been isolated such that you can go the alg route if you want everything analyzed for you.

Also, most OLL and PLL cases have been optimized to death. The Opticubes site alone has many different versions, including the optimal, 2-gen RU, Rru, RFU versions, etc. Whereas it's hard to find guides for the last step of Petrus and Roux other than the creator's sites themselves. And even then, the options are still unclear (there's CMLL, CLL, COLL for Roux I think, I'm not sure, and then for Petrus, ZBLL seems like the optimal choice, but practically, there's CLL+ELL, or just plain old cross OLL+PLL, or MGLS...)

But since this thread is about new methods you can try out, I suggest Roux, simply because I like it and it's fun. And people who know vanilla LBL methods still don't see the solve coming, it's like magic to them (even though I'm quite slow with Roux).

 

[abr71310]

I thought Roux himself got a 10.06 in competition (I know BigGreen hasn't been to one, but what does Roux average these days?)...?

 

[AvGalen]

I thought Roux himself got a 10.06 in competition (I know BigGreen hasn't been to one, but what does Roux average these days?)...?

These days? Or is this good enough?

 

[wzrds3]

Honestly, if you're stuck at 35 with Fridrich, you can definitely get faster. I average at 40 seconds with a 4 look LL. Check out Macky's site for some tips on how to get faster with the stuff you know. Looking ahead and an efficient F2L is extremely important.

That's just a suggestion. There's no harm in trying out a new method.

 

[ChromisElda]

Honestly, if you're stuck at 35 with Fridrich, you can definitely get faster. I average at 40 seconds with a 4 look LL. Check out Macky's site for some tips on how to get faster with the stuff you know. Looking ahead and an efficient F2L is extremely important.

That's just a suggestion. There's no harm in trying out a new method.

Heh I'm stuck at around 35 seconds too, and the site has some great pointers
Thanks!

 

[hippofluff]

I was once stuck at 35 also maybe around 3 months ago, I am now at 21-23 ish and I (if you can relate) dropped my average from 26ish to low 20's in 2 days just by focusing on look ahead. During my solves I would focus on constantly thinking only what to do next instead of what I was doing at the time. Just execute this and within a week you should see your averages plumit

 

[shelley]

While there's certainly nothing wrong with exploring new methods, there's no way you've "maxed out" Fridrich at only 35 seconds.