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SpartanSailor

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Technically the judge is supposed to stop the attempt when you hit the time limit, so it would be literally "did not finish" and there's no distinction to make.
Correct. Our delegates write the “time remaining” beside the attempt and instruct the judges to stop the competitor when/if they reach that time.
 

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I think yes. Similarly to the single attempt time limit. The difference is that you have an opportunity to maneuver to pass limit within several attempts instead of one.
If I understand your question, you are asking what would show on your WCA profile page?
If you had two successes and then timed out for the third, you would see two valid times and one DNF in the third attempt column.

You would NOT receive a DNF for all three attempts.

Is that what you’re asking?
 

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If I understand your question, you are asking what would show on your WCA profile page?
Is that what you’re asking?
Exactly!

So, based on my examples the profile record would be like this (cumulative limit - 20 mins, attempts - 5:20 5:00 10:05):

Single

Average

Solves

5:00

DNF

5:20 5:00 DNF
and single would go to PR?

...An upcoming local comps has cumulative limits for the 6x6 and 7x7 instead of "traditional" limit+cutoff, moreover there will be no 2x2 to 5x5 events...
 
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Exactly!

So, based on my examples the profile record would be like this (cumulative limit - 20 mins, attempts - 5:20 5:00 10:05):

Single

Average

Solves

5:00

DNF

5:20 5:00 DNF
and single would go to PR?


...An upcoming local comps has cumulative limits for the 6x6 and 7x7 instead of "traditional" limit+cutoff, moreover there will be no 2x2 to 5x5 events...
If that single is a PR, then yes.

Interesting approach to 6x6 and 7x7.
Which competition is that?
 

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Correct. Our delegates write the “time remaining” beside the attempt and instruct the judges to stop the competitor when/if they reach that time.
Same in the UK. Actually someone got their arithmetic wrong at UK Championships and stopped my final 5BLD attempt a minute early! I could have asked for an extra, but let it go because my centres were messed up and it would have been a DNF anyway.
 

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Until today I've only had one sub 20 Ao5, in the low 19s. I just crushed that by a full second during a hot streak that finally included a PB single... 15.40 full step. On the 24 second one I solved six F2L pairs lol.

Generated By csTimer on 2019-02-14
solves/total: 5/5

single
best: 15.40
worst: 24.35

mean of 3
current: 17.27 (σ = 1.72)
best: 17.27 (σ = 1.72)

avg of 5
current: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)
best: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)

Average: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)
Mean: 18.94

Time List:
1. 18.52 L' F U R2 F2 L U' B D B2 D' L2 B2 D2 B2 U R2 F2 D' F2
2. 24.35 U B' D' L F2 D' F U2 L2 D' R2 D R2 F2 D' B2 D2 B2 R2 L' B'
3. 17.62 R' L2 B' D2 U2 B' R2 F2 D2 F D2 R' F' D2 U' F D' B D'
4. 15.40 R' D R2 D' L2 D R2 U L2 B2 R2 D' L2 F' U2 R2 D' F2 L' F L2
5. 18.79 B' L F2 L2 F' U2 B F2 U2 L2 D2 L2 F' L' D L' B' D2 B2 D
 

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Until today I've only had one sub 20 Ao5, in the low 19s. I just crushed that by a full second during a hot streak that finally included a PB single... 15.40 full step. On the 24 second one I solved six F2L pairs lol.

Generated By csTimer on 2019-02-14
solves/total: 5/5

single
best: 15.40
worst: 24.35

mean of 3
current: 17.27 (σ = 1.72)
best: 17.27 (σ = 1.72)

avg of 5
current: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)
best: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)

Average: 18.31 (σ = 0.61)
Mean: 18.94

Time List:
1. 18.52 L' F U R2 F2 L U' B D B2 D' L2 B2 D2 B2 U R2 F2 D' F2
2. 24.35 U B' D' L F2 D' F U2 L2 D' R2 D R2 F2 D' B2 D2 B2 R2 L' B'
3. 17.62 R' L2 B' D2 U2 B' R2 F2 D2 F D2 R' F' D2 U' F D' B D'
4. 15.40 R' D R2 D' L2 D R2 U L2 B2 R2 D' L2 F' U2 R2 D' F2 L' F L2
5. 18.79 B' L F2 L2 F' U2 B F2 U2 L2 D2 L2 F' L' D L' B' D2 B2 D
Fantastic! I’ve only had 3 or 4 sub-20 averages too... and not that fast. Very nicely done.
 
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Fantastic! I’ve only had 3 or 4 sub-20 averages too... and not that fast. Very nicely done.

After plateauing for what feels like forever I think several things are really starting to come together at around the same time: cross to F2L transition, preference for solving F2L slots in the back early, and full OLL and recognition which has been a long-game but continues to pay off. Still that was a series of solves were I was pretty much out of my head, I can probably catch a better single still but I expect that Ao5 will stand for a while.
 

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After plateauing for what feels like forever I think several things are really starting to come together at around the same time: cross to F2L transition, preference for solving F2L slots in the back early, and full OLL and recognition which has been a long-game but continues to pay off. Still that was a series of solves were I was pretty much out of my head, I can probably catch a better single still but I expect that Ao5 will stand for a while.

Wow, awesome! All those are in my list but first thing first......
 

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Wow, awesome! All those are in my list but first thing first......

Of the three, back slots has been by far the easiest to train for. I already pay attention to EO so it's just a matter of slow deliberate solves to form the new habit. But I agree, first thing first: your 3bld is getting impressive!
 

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Poor 3BLD results at Manchester for me, for the second comp in a row. I have been learning full edge comms, and used them for all solves in the comp, which was my aim for the day. I'm still a little hesitant with them.

Got a couple of surprise single PBs in 4x4 and 5x5 despite lack of practice. The 4x4 one is overall PB - 51.29 (sorry @Selkie :)).
 

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Got a 1:30 3BLD PB in the 1st round at Manchester today and then 1:23 in the final. Missed a 1st round mean by a flipped edge on the 3rd solve. Was meant to go safe but it felt good so I went for it.

Congratulations, @newtonbase !

I've got the first ever 5BLD success! After missing one T center pair in the first attempt, went for safe (lol, even used individual comm instead of flip or twist) then realized my corner memo was wrong. Spent next 3 minutes to guess what it could have been...then, 33 min success!!!

My comp is still in progress but 5BLD success make me so excited!
 

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Thanks!

Just finished the comp.
It was a small PBQ only 10 people total, relaxed and friendly.

Other than triple DNF for 4BLD, I was able to get a success from round.

3BLD was a meh but avoided another triple,m for both rounds, finished 3rd.

MBLD was also a meh, 5/10, 51 min. I reviewed a lot and executed really slow but all odd number cubes got DNF, 1 twist (incorrect trace of the last corner), 1flip (rotated opposite), one corner cycle due to reverse comm, 1twist (ccw but did cow), D off (second to the last corner comm unsetup). Ended up with 0 points but a lucky 3rd place.

4BLD, suffered from insufficient rooms- I share same rooms for big blinds but after 5 BLD, ran out of rooms, had a hard time to come up with a decent image loci.

5BLD was good, finally got a success. 28 min first was a heart breaker, one X center pair off. 3rd one was 19min two wing cycle off. Almost got a 5BLD mean. 2nd place.
 
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Thanks!

Just finished the comp.
It was a small PBQ only 10 people total, relaxed and friendly.

Other than triple DNF for 4BLD, I was able to get a success from round.

3BLD was a meh but avoided another triple,m for both rounds, finished 3rd.

MBLD was also a meh, 5/10, 51 min. I reviewed a lot and executed really slow but all odd number cubes got DNF, 1 twist (incorrect trace of the last corner), 1flip (rotated opposite), one corner cycle due to reverse comm, 1twist (ccw but did cow), D off (second to the last corner comm unsetup). Ended up with 0 points but a lucky 3rd place.

4BLD, suffered from insufficient rooms- I share same rooms for big blinds but after 5 BLD, ran out of rooms, had a hard time to come up with a decent image loci.

5BLD was good, finally got a success. 28 min first was a heart breaker, one X center pair off. 3rd one was 19min two wing cycle off. Almost got a 5BLD mean. 2nd place.
Nicely done! I’m impressed with your blind solving skills...
 
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