What exactly is this? I see it a lot here. I'm very new to speed cubing. I just sanded down my cube and I'm lubricating it when I find 100% silicone spray in a store near me. That's as close to speed cubing as I am. Lol. Any other terms that I should know for speed cubing? I know any LL means last layer, F2L is first 2 layers, what is PLL and OLL? Thanks!
Sub-# and other terms?
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"sub-X" basically means that you can solve the cube in "under X seconds". For example "sub-40" - under 40 seconds.
For any other terms: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
For any other terms: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
EmersonHerrmann
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PLL is permutation of Last Layer (move around pieces on top after OLL), OLL is Orientation of Last Layer (solving top color after F2L), sub-# is under a certain time.
Example: "I average 14 seconds" or "I average sub-15" or something like that
More terms: CLL (Corners Last Layer), COLL "Corner Orientation Last Layer", MGLS (Makisumi-Garron Last-Slot), CFOP (Cross F2L OLL PLL a.k.a. Fridrich), ZZ (Zbigniew Zborowski [method]), ZB (Zborowsky-Bruchem [method]), ZBF2L (Zborowski-Bruchem First two layers), ZBLL (Zborowski-Bruchem Last Layer), etc.
Example: "I average 14 seconds" or "I average sub-15" or something like that
More terms: CLL (Corners Last Layer), COLL "Corner Orientation Last Layer", MGLS (Makisumi-Garron Last-Slot), CFOP (Cross F2L OLL PLL a.k.a. Fridrich), ZZ (Zbigniew Zborowski [method]), ZB (Zborowsky-Bruchem [method]), ZBF2L (Zborowski-Bruchem First two layers), ZBLL (Zborowski-Bruchem Last Layer), etc.
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EmersonHerrmann
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Sub-1 probably refers to sub one minute like on a 4x4.
I think they were talking about a computer 5x5. I don't remember where I heard it. Its possible to get sub-1 on a 2x2 though. I think when I read the world records, a 2x2 was like .7 seconds. I can solve one in like 30. And a 3x3 in like 1:30 at least if I'm lucky, and 2 mins regularly. I'm going to try to learn F2L, OLL, and PLL. I can do F2L, but not quickly, but practice makes perfect. I don't use what the vid says, but I think I have what I do memorized, so when I get to certain points I should know what to do. I just wrote down all the 2LOLL and 2LPLL algos. I'm going to be solving the cube from now on with the F2L and 4LLL (Is that what its called? 2LOLL + 2LPLL = 4LLL?) methods.
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EmersonHerrmann
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Off-topic: The WR for 2x2 is .96 seconds by Erik Akkersdijk.
Still Off-topic: It's just 2OLL and 2PLL...also, you should learn full PLL.
On-topic: Kubekid: Shotaro Makisumi has tons of terminology on his site: http://cubefreak.net/other/glossary.html
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nitrocan
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Ever heard of subzero in Mortal Kombat?
mazei
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He is cold man.
So like I said, I learned F2L, OLL, and PLL. I didn't memorize the algorithms yet, but I timed myself twice so far, and the first time I got 2 minutes, which is my normal time without F2L, OLL, and PLL, and the second time I got about 2 minutes and 45 seconds. There's no improvement yet, but once I learn the algorithms for OLL and PLL will there be? I got to about almost 2 minutes I think just with the F2L because I still am not perfect with that, so I know there will be an improvement in the F2L, but I don't see how the last layer can improve much, other than I can solve it without using a piece of paper in front of me. Lol. I'll time the last layer only with the OLL and PLL algorithms, and with my old method that Dan Brown teaches. It took 1:10 with the algorithms, and my old method took about 30 seconds. Will I be able to get the OLL and PLL below 30 seconds?
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byu
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Yeah, it was this thread probably. It means sub-1 minute. When talking about 4x4x4 and higher cubes (or not even cubes sometimes, like megaminx), sub-# means less than that amount of minutes.
It's basically just what you think sounds reasonable. If you hear about a sub-2 5x5x5 solve, it's probably in minutes, if you hear about a sub-20 3x3x3 solve, it's probably in seconds, and sub-1 on 3x3x3 is probably in minutes.
mazei
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Dude, relax. You don't improve from 2 minutes to 14 seconds in just one hour by learning all the algorithms there is to learn. You have to just practice and understand the cube first. I could average 25 seconds with the Dan Brown Method(I'm serious, I do). With that, don't cram all these algos in your head now. I suggest you check out Macky's site on how to learn Fridrich(Although I don't recommend learning the algos there). He also states the times you should be averaging with the specific method.
But if you ask me, Just keep practicing with the Dan Brown method until you are around 30-40 seconds and then slowly start learning Fridrich starting with F2L(intuitively). Once that's done learn 4-Look Last Layer and then...basically follow Macky's site.
EmersonHerrmann
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*sigh*
Listen to mazei, he's right. Cubing is practice practice practice...you can't just learn algs and become sub-20...you gotta work
First, learn another method other than Dan Brown's very very very beginner method...like this is the one I learned from and in a day I got sub-1 averages:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRFCTHRk7g&feature=related
You should learn practice "F2L" after you get to sub-1, and I don't mean just putting in the corners and then the edges, but actually inserting corner and edge pairs. This will help you improve very much.
Also, Thrawst's tutorial that may help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2FhJj6mJAk&feature=channel_page
Or Badmephisto's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM&feature=channel_page
There are many many many MANY places that you can look on the forum and find ways to get faster.
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byu
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Badmephisto is the bestcube teacher in my opinion
Okay. I read your post wrong. You weren't telling me to watch that video. I was like, this is even more beginner than Dan Brown's method that I learned from. I will try the Badmephisto video now. Wait. I already saw that. I'll try the Thrawst video. Okay. It turns out that these videos teach me all of what I already know. I just need lots of practice and to memorize the algorithms. Although, the part of the Thrawst video that I saw, he showed flash cards. I might think about doing that since having the algorithm right next to the picture of the case makes me too dependent on the paper. I just need to know how to easily recreate each case, so I can repeatedly do the algorithm over and over again.
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EmersonHerrmann
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You keep saying you know F2L and you're STILL getting 2 minute solves? You should really really practice your F2L.
I actually don't really know it. I just mess around with the right and the down face a lot until I get it. I agree. I need lots of practice on F2L. I don't understand the Badmephisto video. I don't like where it goes through each case with no constant visuals, just the one show at the beginning before the case is solved. I need something like his LL videos where at the top it shows a pic of the case, and the algorithm next to it. I just finished printing the flash cards for the OLLs, and when I find more index cards, I'll do the PLLs, and if I find a great guide like that for F2L, I'll also do those flash cards. I found two great sites, the first two that come up in a Google search of "F2L algorithms", but I need something compacted. I can't learn that many algorithms at one time, and maybe not even at all. I already know Dan Brown's algorithms, his 4x4 algorithms, Megaminx algorithms, and I was trying to learn the parity errors for the 4x4, and I can only learn the two identical ones, which are the shortest ones. 2r, 2U, 2r, 2U*, 2r, 2u. Lol. And now I'm trying to learn OLL and PLL. I don't think I can learn much more. Eventually some are going to get kicked, and I hope they're not ones that I will need. Plus, I'm pretty sure I have ADHD, or at least a crazily short attention span. I have to learn small amounts of algorithms at a time. I think OLL and PLL are my limits right now until I can completely memorize all of them. Then I may learn all the F2L algorithms. Or if you know of any compacted F2L guides with great visuals, please tell me.
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