Anyone in to Hip-Hop?

[F1Z2L3]

MC Juice> MC Supernatural, especially when it comes to tracks.

I love MC Juice VS MC Supernatural debates. I agree Juice's music is better but I'm leaning towards "Supenat" overall.

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

MC Juice> MC Supernatural, especially when it comes to tracks.

I love MC Juice VS MC Supernatural debates. I agree Juice's music is better but I'm leaning towards "Supenat" overall.

Show me an album from Supernatural better than MC Juice's "tip of the iceberg"

 

[F1Z2L3]

MC Juice> MC Supernatural, especially when it comes to tracks.

I love MC Juice VS MC Supernatural debates. I agree Juice's music is better but I'm leaning towards "Supenat" overall.

Show me an album from Supernatural better than MC Juice's "tip of the iceberg"

ahaha calm down I agree juices music is better I just think nats freestyle abilities are a little better. Don't get me wrong Juice is a legend and definately one of my favorites.

 

[d4m4s74]

hip-hop, yes
rap?
hell no

I like 70s hiphop

 

[crazyasianskills]

I'm really into it, mostly what I listen too. I'm a big fan of Lupe Fiasco, not his mainstream stuff though. I also like Tupac, Eminem, Nas, people like that. I'm one of those guys who mostly likes songs though, not really artists.

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

What do you think of Technique?

 

[F1Z2L3]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

 

[F1Z2L3]

There are a lot more people on here that appreciate hip-hop than I thought. Especially after dene shot down my video I posted a while back, I didn't think people here would responde positively to this thread. Good to know we have a lot in common.

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

Aye, I disagree with your opinion on his 3rd world album. His 1st album was mostly **** talk, mixed with intelligence and some other real ****. Because of the rave around his 'revolutionary vol 1', his subsequent album sold very well. Of course, logically and even in today's mainstream music, rappers put out what the majority wants to hear. That's what he did. Technique knew people would respect real hip-hop, especially as intelligent as his music. So he put out what the majority wanted. Back to my point, he put out more of himself; more of a message from his heart into Vol. 2. And no doubt, Vol. 2 is as good as Vol. 1, possibly even better due to the realness of it. Anyway, the '3rd world' inherited the similar trend that he expressed. And album even MORE realer and MORE personal. Honestly, I think 3rd world is better than Vol. 1. As you can see, I respect the guy and I know where he is coming from when he puts out his music.

Anyway, do you know if The Middle Passage is separate from his 'revolutionary' albums, or if it is his Vol. 3, just named differently?

 

[boiiwonder]

Nice taste!
Mainstream sucks

My favs are: Nas, 2Pac, Masta Ace, Common, Little Brother, Jedi Mind Tricks, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest, Gang Starr, Talib Kweli, MF Doom, Afu Ra, Big Pun, The Notorious BIG, Brand Nubian, L'Roneous (credits to F.P. for that), Cypress Hill, Das EFX, Dead Prez, DJ Jazzy Jeff stuff, Dr. Octagon, Ed OG, Foreign Exchange, Immortal Technique, Jean Grae, ... (just from A - J except for my absolute favourites with which I started)

How can you forget KRS One, The Roots, Papoose, and Big L ?!?!? lol

anyway these people on the radio now they arent rappers.

I mean common now Souja boy, Plies, Kanye, and T-Pain?? common now. They talk about the same stuff OVER and OVER again.

My current mainstreem rappers i like would probaly be

Tyga--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2cyzJwa-c

J.R Writer-- Cant find anything good on youtube

Lil Wayne is pretty good also, but kind of overrated.

LL Cool J -- I couldnt leave him out ( i like his old stuff )

Lupe Fiasco-- He good

 

[dChan]

Hmm, well I like pretty much anything that sounds good so if it is good hip hop or rap or whatever I won't mind listening to it. I won't shut my mind off to any genre.

Something I've been listening to recently is 3OH!3 - they are super cool.

 

[F1Z2L3]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

Aye, I disagree with your opinion on his 3rd world album. His 1st album was mostly **** talk, mixed with intelligence and some other real ****. Because of the rave around his 'revolutionary vol 1', his subsequent album sold very well. Of course, logically and even in today's mainstream music, rappers put out what the majority wants to hear. That's what he did. Technique knew people would respect real hip-hop, especially as intelligent as his music. So he put out what the majority wanted. Back to my point, he put out more of himself; more of a message from his heart into Vol. 2. And no doubt, Vol. 2 is as good as Vol. 1, possibly even better due to the realness of it. Anyway, the '3rd world' inherited the similar trend that he expressed. And album even MORE realer and MORE personal. Honestly, I think 3rd world is better than Vol. 1. As you can see, I respect the guy and I know where he is coming from when he puts out his music.

Anyway, do you know if The Middle Passage is separate from his 'revolutionary' albums, or if it is his Vol. 3, just named differently?

You know theres always the argumant that record labels are only producing what "the majority" wants to hear. I've given this a lot of thought and even wrote an essay about it at one point. Is it really what "we" want to hear or what the industry wants us to want to hear. I don't beleive that the majority wants to still listen to the same clubby poppy sound that weve been exposed to since the late 90's. Everyone that I've talked (it could just be the area I live in) that is into hip-hop agrees that they can't listen to a lot of mainstream hip-hop. I do believe there is a place and time for that kind of Hip-Hop and I'm greatefull that it exists but I think there is way to much of it. The industry has become supersaturated with it. I refuse to believe(unless you have reliable statistics or something that will convince me) that more than half of everyone that listens to hip-hop isn't tired of hearing the same sing-songy clubby bling bling rap all the time.

As for the 3rd world, i see where your comming from. I just prefere that raw rugged sound that volume one had. 3rd world lost some of that. The 3rd world is definetaly more political, a step up from volume 2 theres no doubt there. You can also see tech maturing as an artist. his voice has gotten deeper and raspyer. Your right about it being realer it definetly is. I just missed that brutal ruthless vibe volumes 1 and 2 had.

The 3rd world and the middle passage are seperate projects from the revolutiary volume series. There is going to be a revolutionary volume 3 after the middle passage.

 

[fanwuq]

Something I've been listening to recently is 3OH!3 - they are super cool.

3OH!3
Is that something that you accidentally found while searching for cubing stuff like 3x3 OH? I did not expect that to be non-cube related.
So are they any good when you do 3OH cubing?

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

Aye, I disagree with your opinion on his 3rd world album. His 1st album was mostly **** talk, mixed with intelligence and some other real ****. Because of the rave around his 'revolutionary vol 1', his subsequent album sold very well. Of course, logically and even in today's mainstream music, rappers put out what the majority wants to hear. That's what he did. Technique knew people would respect real hip-hop, especially as intelligent as his music. So he put out what the majority wanted. Back to my point, he put out more of himself; more of a message from his heart into Vol. 2. And no doubt, Vol. 2 is as good as Vol. 1, possibly even better due to the realness of it. Anyway, the '3rd world' inherited the similar trend that he expressed. And album even MORE realer and MORE personal. Honestly, I think 3rd world is better than Vol. 1. As you can see, I respect the guy and I know where he is coming from when he puts out his music.

Anyway, do you know if The Middle Passage is separate from his 'revolutionary' albums, or if it is his Vol. 3, just named differently?

You know theres always the argumant that record labels are only producing what "the majority" wants to hear. I've given this a lot of thought and even wrote an essay about it at one point. Is it really what "we" want to hear or what the industry wants us to want to hear. I don't beleive that the majority wants to still listen to the same clubby poppy sound that weve been exposed to since the late 90's. Everyone that I've talked (it could just be the area I live in) that is into hip-hop agrees that they can't listen to a lot of mainstream hip-hop. I do believe there is a place and time for that kind of Hip-Hop and I'm greatefull that it exists but I think there is way to much of it. The industry has become supersaturated with it. I refuse to believe that more than half of everyone that listens to hip-hop isn't tired of hearing the same sing-songy clubby bling bling rap all the time.

As for the 3rd world, i see where your comming from. I just prefere that raw rugged sound that volume one had. 3rd world lost some of that. The 3rd world is definetaly more political, a step up from volume 2 theres no doubt there. You can also see tech maturing as an artist. his voice has gotten deeper and raspyer. Your right about it being realer it definetly is. I just missed that brutal ruthless vibe volumes 1 and 2 had.

The 3rd world and the middle passage are seperate projects from the revolutiary volume series. There is going to be a revolutionary volume 3 after the middle passage.

YES! I agree with you on your point about 'the industry'. I too think they are putting out not what WE want to hear, but rather what they'd prefer us to hear. I can write a huge paragraph, but I'd rather not, so I'll sum it up real fast. In my opinion, they, the major labels, are putting out what they want to put out. Individual artists with an incredible amount of talent have fallen to the label's control. Technique calls these people puppets. Anyway, I think they are intending on killing hip-hop. Hip-hop is about what's REAL. They want to dumb it down and have everyone thinking about 2 stepping or popping bottles, or whatever is 'hot' right now in the dickriding section of mainstream. For all we know, those who have a great amount of talent are being used and possibly even paid extra to rap what the labels prefer. Lil Wayne is huge right now, not for his talent (indeed, I think he has SOME talent) but for his effect on the minority population. Oh well, I don't want to start a philosophical paragraph in a hip-hop thread at a rubiks cube website. Sounds funny saying that too. Glad to hear someone out there knows what's up.

 

[F1Z2L3]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

Aye, I disagree with your opinion on his 3rd world album. His 1st album was mostly **** talk, mixed with intelligence and some other real ****. Because of the rave around his 'revolutionary vol 1', his subsequent album sold very well. Of course, logically and even in today's mainstream music, rappers put out what the majority wants to hear. That's what he did. Technique knew people would respect real hip-hop, especially as intelligent as his music. So he put out what the majority wanted. Back to my point, he put out more of himself; more of a message from his heart into Vol. 2. And no doubt, Vol. 2 is as good as Vol. 1, possibly even better due to the realness of it. Anyway, the '3rd world' inherited the similar trend that he expressed. And album even MORE realer and MORE personal. Honestly, I think 3rd world is better than Vol. 1. As you can see, I respect the guy and I know where he is coming from when he puts out his music.

Anyway, do you know if The Middle Passage is separate from his 'revolutionary' albums, or if it is his Vol. 3, just named differently?

You know theres always the argumant that record labels are only producing what "the majority" wants to hear. I've given this a lot of thought and even wrote an essay about it at one point. Is it really what "we" want to hear or what the industry wants us to want to hear. I don't beleive that the majority wants to still listen to the same clubby poppy sound that weve been exposed to since the late 90's. Everyone that I've talked (it could just be the area I live in) that is into hip-hop agrees that they can't listen to a lot of mainstream hip-hop. I do believe there is a place and time for that kind of Hip-Hop and I'm greatefull that it exists but I think there is way to much of it. The industry has become supersaturated with it. I refuse to believe that more than half of everyone that listens to hip-hop isn't tired of hearing the same sing-songy clubby bling bling rap all the time.

As for the 3rd world, i see where your comming from. I just prefere that raw rugged sound that volume one had. 3rd world lost some of that. The 3rd world is definetaly more political, a step up from volume 2 theres no doubt there. You can also see tech maturing as an artist. his voice has gotten deeper and raspyer. Your right about it being realer it definetly is. I just missed that brutal ruthless vibe volumes 1 and 2 had.

The 3rd world and the middle passage are seperate projects from the revolutiary volume series. There is going to be a revolutionary volume 3 after the middle passage.

YES! I agree with you on your point about 'the industry'. I too think they are putting out not what WE want to hear, but rather what they'd prefer us to hear. I can write a huge paragraph, but I'd rather not, so I'll sum it up real fast. In my opinion, they, the major labels, are putting out what they want to put out. Individual artists with an incredible amount of talent have fallen to the label's control. Technique calls these people puppets. Anyway, I think they are intending on killing hip-hop. Hip-hop is about what's REAL. They want to dumb it down and have everyone thinking about 2 stepping or popping bottles, or whatever is 'hot' right now in the dickriding section of mainstream. For all we know, those who have a great amount of talent are being used and possibly even paid extra to rap what the labels prefer. Lil Wayne is huge right now, not for his talent (indeed, I think he has SOME talent) but for his effect on the minority population. Oh well, I don't want to start a philosophical paragraph in a hip-hop thread at a rubiks cube website. Sounds funny saying that too. Glad to hear someone out there knows what's up.

Yeah but one thing I just cant understand is this, why do they have to change hip-hop to make profit off of it. Like tech said there is an industry for everything but there isn't one for real hardcore lyricism its been forced to relocate underground. Why is it that emcees like mos def talib kweli lupe fiasco and the rest are out of the limelight. Why is it that Common had to switch his whole style up to get promotions and advertising? Music will change its inevitable but the rate at which hip-hop changed is mind boggling. Why does the entire image of the culture have to change for it to be a huge influential contribution to the music industry? Certainly there would've been sales if they had left it the way it was. I think the sales would've been even greater than what's selling now. Let the emcees, dj's, and decide what hip-hop is and let the business people formulate their plans around that idea. Even if this strategy was to be implemented now, its too late most of "us" are brainwashed

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

What do you think of Technique?

Tech is arguably the greatest underground emcee out right now. His 3rd world album was not as good as his first two cd's but still ill. I can't waite for that middle passage though. what do u think of tech?

Aye, I disagree with your opinion on his 3rd world album. His 1st album was mostly **** talk, mixed with intelligence and some other real ****. Because of the rave around his 'revolutionary vol 1', his subsequent album sold very well. Of course, logically and even in today's mainstream music, rappers put out what the majority wants to hear. That's what he did. Technique knew people would respect real hip-hop, especially as intelligent as his music. So he put out what the majority wanted. Back to my point, he put out more of himself; more of a message from his heart into Vol. 2. And no doubt, Vol. 2 is as good as Vol. 1, possibly even better due to the realness of it. Anyway, the '3rd world' inherited the similar trend that he expressed. And album even MORE realer and MORE personal. Honestly, I think 3rd world is better than Vol. 1. As you can see, I respect the guy and I know where he is coming from when he puts out his music.

Anyway, do you know if The Middle Passage is separate from his 'revolutionary' albums, or if it is his Vol. 3, just named differently?

You know theres always the argumant that record labels are only producing what "the majority" wants to hear. I've given this a lot of thought and even wrote an essay about it at one point. Is it really what "we" want to hear or what the industry wants us to want to hear. I don't beleive that the majority wants to still listen to the same clubby poppy sound that weve been exposed to since the late 90's. Everyone that I've talked (it could just be the area I live in) that is into hip-hop agrees that they can't listen to a lot of mainstream hip-hop. I do believe there is a place and time for that kind of Hip-Hop and I'm greatefull that it exists but I think there is way to much of it. The industry has become supersaturated with it. I refuse to believe that more than half of everyone that listens to hip-hop isn't tired of hearing the same sing-songy clubby bling bling rap all the time.

As for the 3rd world, i see where your comming from. I just prefere that raw rugged sound that volume one had. 3rd world lost some of that. The 3rd world is definetaly more political, a step up from volume 2 theres no doubt there. You can also see tech maturing as an artist. his voice has gotten deeper and raspyer. Your right about it being realer it definetly is. I just missed that brutal ruthless vibe volumes 1 and 2 had.

The 3rd world and the middle passage are seperate projects from the revolutiary volume series. There is going to be a revolutionary volume 3 after the middle passage.

YES! I agree with you on your point about 'the industry'. I too think they are putting out not what WE want to hear, but rather what they'd prefer us to hear. I can write a huge paragraph, but I'd rather not, so I'll sum it up real fast. In my opinion, they, the major labels, are putting out what they want to put out. Individual artists with an incredible amount of talent have fallen to the label's control. Technique calls these people puppets. Anyway, I think they are intending on killing hip-hop. Hip-hop is about what's REAL. They want to dumb it down and have everyone thinking about 2 stepping or popping bottles, or whatever is 'hot' right now in the dickriding section of mainstream. For all we know, those who have a great amount of talent are being used and possibly even paid extra to rap what the labels prefer. Lil Wayne is huge right now, not for his talent (indeed, I think he has SOME talent) but for his effect on the minority population. Oh well, I don't want to start a philosophical paragraph in a hip-hop thread at a rubiks cube website. Sounds funny saying that too. Glad to hear someone out there knows what's up.

Yeah but one thing I just cant understand is this, why do they have to change hip-hop to make profit off of it. Like tech said there is an industry for everything but there isn't one for real hardcore lyricism its been forced to relocate underground. Why is it that emcees like mos def talib kweli lupe fiasco and the rest are out of the limelight. Why is it that Common had to switch his whole style up to get promotions and advertising? Music will change its inevitable but the rate at which hip-hop changed is mind boggling. Why does the entire image of the culture have to change for it to be a huge influential contribution to the music industry? Certainly there would've been sales if they had left it the way it was. I think the sales would've been even greater than what's selling now. Let the emcees, dj's, and decide what hip-hop is and let the business people formulate their plans around that idea. Even if this strategy was to be implemented now, its too late most of "us" are brainwashed

You may have missed one of my points. Hip-Hop is about what's real; the truth. The industry is changing Hip-Hop, so there isn't any truth, besides dumbed-down lyrics and zombie listeners who are stuck on the jewelery, cars, money, women, liquor, fads or whatever is expressed in the music produced. The 'game' has changed a lot, and indeed everything changes. But fake 'hip-hop' isn't the truth and REAL hip-hop will always produce a truthful message. To me, now this is my opinion, you can apply the same perspective to television. It's all bull, used to distract you from something, while attracting you to something new and utterly unreal. Regardless, I still enjoy Dexter, but it's just bull if it isn't science.

By the way, it IS too late for the real hip-hop to reign. The major labels mass produce and advertise like crazy. Where do you live?

 

[F1Z2L3]

By the way, it IS too late for the real hip-hop to reign. The major labels mass produce and advertise like crazy. Where do you live?

DMV

More specifically Northern VA Fairfax area

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

DMV. I never took US geography, but is VA virginia? In any case, have you ever went against those, in hip-hop, people who LOVE mainstream rap? They REALLY think there isn't anyone better than what is fed to them.

 

[F1Z2L3]

DMV. I never took US geography, but is VA virginia? In any case, have you ever went against those, in hip-hop, people who LOVE mainstream rap? They REALLY think there isn't anyone better than what is fed to them.

DMV is a region in hip-hop similar to dirty south, eastcoast, westcoast, midwest. DMV is short for Washington DC, Maryland, and Virginia.

I have been in very heated debates and in discussions about Hip-Hop with people who think underground rap is bad as well as people who dislike hip-hop. I dont go around trying to start a debate or try to force my opinion on everyone else, but i do enjoy discussing it with poeple. Whatever your opinions are I respect them and am open minded to them. I love discussing different forms of hip-hop and the type of hip-hop in different regions of the world.

 

[4weeksAndImSub60]

Yeah? Are you into Wutang?