Older cubers discussions

[pglewis]

Damn, got my first 4x4 yesterday and did a couple of solves on it. Slowly getting some more inside in what to do, but i expected to get like 4/5 mins solves ... again damn ... it's harder then i thought. Doing like 7 - 10 min solves :/
Guess practice is what needs to be done

I'm not very good, in the 2-3 min range on 4x4, but I would guess most of your time is tied up in solving centers and pairing edges. If you're just using straight reduction I would suggest looking into Yau and Hoya. They are comparable methods just different, most people discover a personal preference for one or the other.

 

[Bart Van Eynde]

I'm not very good, in the 2-3 min range on 4x4, but I would guess most of your time is tied up in solving centers and pairing edges. If you're just using straight reduction I would suggest looking into Yau and Hoya. They are comparable methods just different, most people discover a personal preference for one or the other.

I do use Yau atm. Didn't bother to learn the reduction method
And indeed, i seem to have the most problems with the centers. I somehow keep messing up the partial cross or messing up the color scheme. But that must be the noob-factor i guess

 

[Bart Van Eynde]

I do use Yau atm. Didn't bother to learn the reduction method
And indeed, i seem to have the most problems with the centers. I somehow keep messing up the partial cross or messing up the color scheme. But that must be the noob-factor i guess

Just got a 5:33 Seems like i'm getting better. (no parities though)

 

[CuberJK77]

Hi there,

I wanna join the club of the old guys......

Introduced me at this thread :
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/40-years-old-guy-from-germany.67281/

Regards


I'm waiting for 3 orders from 2 different shops and will review my experiences in short when they arrive. On it's way are:
Weilong Gts2, mf3rs, qiyi qidi, Yuan, zheng, Warriorw and the yuexiao pro m.

I know, too much too early, but hey, like in futurama "take my money"

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Hi there,

I wanna join the club of the old guys......

Introduced me at this thread :
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/40-years-old-guy-from-germany.67281/

Regards


I'm waiting for 3 orders from 2 different shops and will review my experiences in short when they arrive. On it's way are:
Weilong Gts2, mf3rs, qiyi qidi, Yuan, zheng, Warriorw and the yuexiao pro m.

I know, too much too early, but hey, like in futurama "take my money"

Welcome to the oldies club ...

One main difference between the older generation and the younger is that we have a little more disposable income to splurge on cubes. I found my collection expanding rapidly.... but now I'm trying to sell off those that I don't use

Well done on the times ... jut keep practicing and they will come down fairly quickly.

 

[Bemis]

Welcome @CuberJK77 ! Sounds like a great list of goodies. I have my first 4x4 showing up today, so I know what the wait feels like. I carry a GTS2 with me in a bag every where I go and I have an extra sitting on my desk. It just feels so good in hand. Enjoy them all though!

 

[Bemis]

One main difference between the older generation and the younger is that we have a little more disposable income to splurge on cubes.

I hear ya there. I need to stop browsing shops and stop watching "review" videos. Haha. I have so many 3x3s on my desk, it's getting hard to find my coffee cup.

 

[CuberJK77]

That's it, cubes everywhere. One for the living room, one at work, one for the train, one.......
And, if i don't stop, many budgetcubes for "designing paintings", so you use the cubies as pixels. Makes a lot of fun, and is my current sport. Got some serious heart issues, so normal physical activities arent possible.

 

[Bemis]

Sorry to hear about the heart issues. Yeah the biggest plus with cubing is I don't have to plug it in, I don't have to remember to charge it, I don't need to take spare batteries and it's small enough I can almost always have one with me.

That's it, cubes everywhere. One for the living room, one at work, one for the train, one.......
And, if i don't stop, many budgetcubes for "designing paintings", so you use the cubies as pixels. Makes a lot of fun, and is my current sport. Got some serious heart issues, so normal physical activities arent possible.

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Managed to finally break my ao12 PB for 3x3 .... 14.32 Had a good streak today with 42 of my 100 solves being sub-15. Got a lucky pll skip on the 10 which is only 6-tenths of a second off my PB.


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Generated By csTimer on 2017-12-20
avg of 12: 14.32

Time List:
1. (10.17) L2 F2 U2 R2 U R2 D' R2 U R' D L2 R U F L2 U B' L2
2. 13.69 L' F2 R' F2 D2 B2 U2 R2 F2 R' D2 U' B L' R D' U R2 F R'
3. 15.71 D' B2 R2 L2 D' R2 D' F2 L' D2 B' R2 D2 R2 F' R2 F' R2
4. 16.97 D2 R B L D' L2 B' U' R B2 U' D' R2 U F2 L2 F2 L2 U' L'
5. (18.63) R L2 U L B D B' U2 R' L2 U2 F2 B' D2 B R2 B D'
6. 13.64 R2 F2 U2 F2 U2 F2 L2 R U L' F R' F R2 U2 L' F' U
7. 12.27 D' R2 U' R' D' L D B2 R' U2 F2 B R2 F U2 F' B2 L2 R'
8. 13.57 F2 R2 L D' F U2 R' F' U F2 R2 U2 B' R2 F' D2 F' R2 F' B'
9. 14.15 L2 D2 F' L2 U2 F L2 D2 F R2 U2 L' B L' B2 R' D L R D2
10. 14.98 R' U2 B' R2 U' F R2 U R L U L2 B2 U' D2 L2 F2 U B2 L2
11. 13.87 U2 F2 U2 R2 F2 L2 D B2 U F2 L2 F' D L F2 U2 R2 D' B U2 R'
12. 14.33 U B2 L2 D' U' L2 D R2 U F U' F U' L' F2 R2 B U R

 

[pglewis]

Just got a 5:33 Seems like i'm getting better. (no parities though)

I would search out a video or two on Yau half-centers, J Perm in particular has a good one on YouTube. You'll knock the time off quickly at this stage with some practice.

Hi there,

I wanna join the club of the old guys......

Introduced me at this thread :
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/40-years-old-guy-from-germany.67281/

Regards


I'm waiting for 3 orders from 2 different shops and will review my experiences in short when they arrive. On it's way are:
Weilong Gts2, mf3rs, qiyi qidi, Yuan, zheng, Warriorw and the yuexiao pro m.

I know, too much too early, but hey, like in futurama "take my money"

Welcome to the old folks home!

 

[Bart Van Eynde]

Hi there,

I wanna join the club of the old guys......

Introduced me at this thread :
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/40-years-old-guy-from-germany.67281/

Regards


I'm waiting for 3 orders from 2 different shops and will review my experiences in short when they arrive. On it's way are:
Weilong Gts2, mf3rs, qiyi qidi, Yuan, zheng, Warriorw and the yuexiao pro m.

I know, too much too early, but hey, like in futurama "take my money"

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Jason Green]

Hi there,

I wanna join the club of the old guys......

Introduced me at this thread :
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/40-years-old-guy-from-germany.67281/

Regards


I'm waiting for 3 orders from 2 different shops and will review my experiences in short when they arrive. On it's way are:
Weilong Gts2, mf3rs, qiyi qidi, Yuan, zheng, Warriorw and the yuexiao pro m.

I know, too much too early, but hey, like in futurama "take my money"

Welcome to the forum! One suggestion someone made on your other post is check out algdb or some other sites besides badmephisto. A lot of his are good but a few aren't as great. I learned full OLL and PLL pretty much entirely from him and still have some I should change but just haven't done it yet.

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Welcome to the forum! One suggestion someone made on your other post is check out algdb or some other sites besides badmephisto. A lot of his are good but a few aren't as great. I learned full OLL and PLL pretty much entirely from him and still have some I should change but just haven't done it yet.

I also learnt my OLL and PLL from Badmephisto and Bob Burton http://www.cubewhiz.com/index.php

I've changed quite a few of them since then, and mirrored some to my left hand. Probably not the best thing to do apparently, but works for me at the moment.

Algdb is an awesome place to look for algs. I wish there was an Android app for it.

 

[CuberJK77]

Woa, that's quite a lot of algs. I think i'll print them out and try which suits best to me. Don't know why, but the r U R' U' r' F R F' got at about 30 secs into my brain / muscles, it felt completely natural. Got to look at the alg.db closer.....

 

[pglewis]

[...] and mirrored some to my left hand. Probably not the best thing to do apparently [...]

I'm curious what the argument against this is. My attitude is, if a particular right-handed alg is the best ergonomic solution for a case... then why wouldn't the left-handed version of that alg be the best ergonomic solution for the L/R mirror? There is nothing different about how my left hand moves vs. my right other than dominant hand advantage (which diminishes with practice).

 

[One Wheel]

I'm curious what the argument against this is. My attitude is, if a particular right-handed alg is the best ergonomic solution for a case... then why wouldn't the left-handed version of that alg be the best ergonomic solution for the L/R mirror? There is nothing different about how my left hand moves vs. my right other than dominant hand advantage (which diminishes with practice).

I think the argument is that most of the time people practice RH algs, so the disparity increases rather than decreases. I mostly mirror, because I'm not so good at learning algs, but I do have different Ja and Jb algs.

 

[pglewis]

I think the argument is that most of the time people practice RH algs, so the disparity increases rather than decreases. I mostly mirror, because I'm not so good at learning algs, but I do have different Ja and Jb algs.

I can kinda see that argument for someone sub-1'ing all PLLs... but I have to question if it's good advice for someone starting from scratch and for whom even right-handed algs are still slow and finger tricks are being learned.

[Edit: I figured out the LH mirror for my Jb alg about 3 weeks ago and have been practicing it, though I see no reason to ditch the one I had been using... if I keep both versions fresh I'm never more than a U or U' away from executing one of them]

 

[Bemis]

Speaking of ordering too many cubes, while waiting on my WuQue M, which could take awhile, these showed up last night. Auso M and a Cyclone Boys G4.

I had watched a few solves while waiting on these and decided to skip beginners method and went straight into Yau. I've got my edge parity alg down and I'm working on getting my PLL alg into muscle memory. It's really close.

Really enjoying the 4x4. Only problem I have found is that I dreamed all night last night about moving centers around on it. Yikes!

As to the advice on trying different algs, it's a wonderful suggestion. When I started out, I noticed that there were many ways to do certain algs while watching finger trick videos. I'm not sure that any of the algs I do now were in that original lineup of algs I was doing. I just did as many as I could find and made notes of the ones that felt really good. For me, adding the M slice is what did it. It just feels so comfortable.

So many great resources these days. Be sure to check out what others are doing in solve videos etc. It might just change your perspective.

 

[Jason Green]

I'm curious what the argument against this is. My attitude is, if a particular right-handed alg is the best ergonomic solution for a case... then why wouldn't the left-handed version of that alg be the best ergonomic solution for the L/R mirror? There is nothing different about how my left hand moves vs. my right other than dominant hand advantage (which diminishes with practice).

If you can overcome the hand dominance with practice you've got a big advantage over me. I have some mirror algs, like R perm. I've drilled L - Lefty double flick L' Lefty double flick a ton but still slow with it. I try to use it in solves instead of right double flick though so maybe it'll improve some day.