Wisconsin Cubing Group

Yes group or no group

  • yes

    Votes: 19 86.4%

  • no

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Total voters
    22
You can edit your response to add 5 and mega.

As for feet, BandedCubing101 hates feet and wouldn't organize the comp with me if we held feet.
FMC, MBLD, and Big blind just take a while and are somewhat hard to organize
 
Fair enough. I'm perpetually confused by people who hate feet, but I suppose there are a lot of people confused by my distaste for 2x2, pyraminx, clock, and skewb.

I'll leave my response as it is. I like 5x5 and megaminx, but as far as I'm concerned at least for the time being they're second-tier events, while 4, 6, and 7 are all primary events for me.
 
CarterK said:
I was told that James Hildreth doesn't want to do feet anymore at his comps.
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But he sounded so disappointed when he told me that I had stolen his podium back in January (actually, he still got third). I was so sure that he was emotionally invested in the event. /sarcasm

Well, that sucks, cause I really need to get my mean and single sub WR100 again, and if half the competitions in my area stop having the chance of having them, that's not good. Also, like, Feet is just fun. I really don't understand why people hate on it so much.
 
CarterK said:
The person I got the info from told me that at a comp he delegated, 2 people made the time limit and 1 made the cutoff.
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Wait, so did he say that he didn't want to do feet, or did somebody get frustrated because he was enforcing strict time limits, and interpret strict time limits as not wanting to do feet anymore?
 
One Wheel said:
Wait, so did he say that he didn't want to do feet, or did somebody get frustrated because he was enforcing strict time limits, and interpret strict time limits as not wanting to do feet anymore?
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He didn't want to do feet because someone got second and didn't make the cutoff. It was at Mishawaka 3x3 day 2016 that this happened. He's trying to get James to change his mind.
 
CarterK said:
He didn't want to do feet because someone got second and didn't make the cutoff. It was at Mishawaka 3x3 day 2016 that this happened. He's trying to get James to change his mind.
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That competition was over a year and a half ago, to start with. My guess is the actual story runs more like this: whoever organized Mishawaka 3x3 Day 2016 contacted Mr. Hildreth to organize Mishawaka 3x3 Day 2018 and wanted feet on the schedule. Whatever factors that resulted in a poor feet competition in 2016 are or likely are still relevant, so he said he didn't want to do feet. I may be completely wrong, but I wouldn't panic over no competitions in the upper Midwest holding feet yet.
 
One Wheel said:
That competition was over a year and a half ago, to start with. My guess is the actual story runs more like this: whoever organized Mishawaka 3x3 Day 2016 contacted Mr. Hildreth to organize Mishawaka 3x3 Day 2018 and wanted feet on the schedule. Whatever factors that resulted in a poor feet competition in 2016 are or likely are still relevant, so he said he didn't want to do feet. I may be completely wrong, but I wouldn't panic over no competitions in the upper Midwest holding feet yet.
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The first point was the main argument. There are many people that can make cutoff now. I think he is worried of a similar future incident.
 
I've been watching the WCA site for a good comp for a while (I guess about 14 months since I went to one) and it seems like they're all either too far away, weird schedule, a lineup of events I'm not interested in, or mostly just a day I happen to have a schedule conflict. I've only been to one comp, and I think I've asked this before, but does anybody want to work with me to organize a comp? Here's what I have in mind:
- Small (<50 competitors)
- Close to me: probably LaCrosse, but it might be easier to find a venue closer to me, like Viroqua, or we could go even closer and out in the sticks like Seneca or Eastman.
- A Saturday in late January or early February
- Big cubes: ideally 5x5, 6x6, and 7x7, with tentative 4x4 and 3BLD.
- Start no earlier than 9:00 AM, done by 4:00 PM.

Just FYI, you probably know from my posts, but I'm not 10 years old and planning to con my mom into doing all the work. I'm pretty green when it comes to cubing, but I'm 30 years old. The reason for the schedule restrictions is that I have a dairy farm to run. I'm not interested in doing small puzzles, and while I've got nothing against 3x3 I'm guessing it would be easier to get a comp approved without it. Anybody interested in helping with something like this?
 
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One Wheel said:
I've been watching the WCA site for a good comp for a while (I guess about 14 months since I went to one) and it seems like they're all either too far away, weird schedule, a lineup of events I'm not interested in, or mostly just a day I happen to have a schedule conflict. I've only been to one comp, and I think I've asked this before, but does anybody want to work with me to organize a comp? Here's what I have in mind:
- Small (<50 competitors)
- Close to me: probably LaCrosse, but it might be easier to find a venue closer to me, like Viroqua, or we could go even closer and out in the sticks like Seneca or Eastman.
- A Saturday in late January or early February
- Big cubes: ideally 5x5, 6x6, and 7x7, with tentative 4x4 and 3BLD.
- Start no earlier than 9:00 AM, done by 4:00 PM.

Just FYI, you probably know from my posts, but I'm not 10 years old and planning to con my mom into doing all the work. I'm pretty green when it comes to cubing, but I'm 30 years old. The reason for the schedule restrictions is that I have a dairy farm to run. I'm not interested in doing small puzzles, and while I've got nothing against 3x3 I'm guessing it would be easier to get a comp approved without it. Anybody interested in helping with something like this?
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One thing to start with is contacting Slater Metz, the Wisconsin delegate, and usually the delegate would help organize. The time frame you are talking about is right around my comp, so that probably isn't a good idea. Feel free to ask me any questions about organizing.
 
CarterK said:
One thing to start with is contacting Slater Metz, the Wisconsin delegate, and usually the delegate would help organize. The time frame you are talking about is right around my comp, so that probably isn't a good idea. Feel free to ask me any questions about organizing.
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I obviously wouldn't do it the same weekend as yours, and the only overlap in events is 5x5 and 3BLD. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to do 4x4 instead of 5x5, and there are several events that I wouldn't mind replacing 3BLD with: feet, 4BLD, or even an unofficial gigaminx round, to start with. I've got other stuff going on at least the second and forth weekends of February, and once we get to March I'll have cows calving and will barely be able to catch my breath, let alone work on anything off the farm.

I've heard that organizing is a lot of work: how much are we talking? Line up a venue, send a couple dozen emails to various people, make a few executive decisions on events, cutoffs, schedule, possible food, etc.; make a couple of lists for heats, judges, and scramblers; set up tables and chairs; and clean up afterwards. What am I missing? Because that sounds pretty easy.
 
One Wheel said:
I obviously wouldn't do it the same weekend as yours, and the only overlap in events is 5x5 and 3BLD. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to do 4x4 instead of 5x5, and there are several events that I wouldn't mind replacing 3BLD with: feet, 4BLD, or even an unofficial gigaminx round, to start with. I've got other stuff going on at least the second and forth weekends of February, and once we get to March I'll have cows calving and will barely be able to catch my breath, let alone work on anything off the farm.

I've heard that organizing is a lot of work: how much are we talking? Line up a venue, send a couple dozen emails to various people, make a few executive decisions on events, cutoffs, schedule, possible food, etc.; make a couple of lists for heats, judges, and scramblers; set up tables and chairs; and clean up afterwards. What am I missing? Because that sounds pretty easy.
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Yeah, you would most likely have to do change the events a tiny bit. As for a date, just find a date, where you, Slater, and the venue can go.

It isn't that much work, but it's definitely some work. I think you covered everything.


Since you can only do it from 9-4, my suggestion would be to add an FMC mean to the start and end of the competition to give you time to work.
 
CarterK said:
Yeah, you would most likely have to do change the events a tiny bit. As for a date, just find a date, where you, Slater, and the venue can go.

It isn't that much work, but it's definitely some work. I think you covered everything.


Since you can only do it from 9-4, my suggestion would be to add an FMC mean to the start and end of the competition to give you time to work.
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Thanks! I've sent an email to a few nearby delegates, we'll see what happens. Technically WCA regulations say comps with the same events should be separated by 26 days or 200km, and Viroqua is 323km from Plymouth, MN, 150 km from Madison. So if something in Madison is planned that would conflict, but while it would be silly to plan a comp in Viroqua for the same day as yours I think it could have the same events on a different weekend. Most of the events would be different, anyway, just because of what I'm interested in.
 
One Wheel said:
Thanks! I've sent an email to a few nearby delegates, we'll see what happens. Technically WCA regulations say comps with the same events should be separated by 26 days or 200km, and Viroqua is 323km from Plymouth, MN, 150 km from Madison. So if something in Madison is planned that would conflict, but while it would be silly to plan a comp in Viroqua for the same day as yours I think it could have the same events on a different weekend. Most of the events would be different, anyway, just because of what I'm interested in.
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Ok the distance would be fine then. Who specifically did you ask? I have a feeling that Walker wouldn't be opposed to that, although I'm not sure he knows who you are. If you find a venue, and they like it, they might be willing to do it, but at this point don't be surprised if they say no.
 
CarterK said:
Ok the distance would be fine then. Who specifically did you ask? I have a feeling that Walker wouldn't be opposed to that, although I'm not sure he knows who you are. If you find a venue, and they like it, they might be willing to do it, but at this point don't be surprised if they say no.
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I sent my email to Walker Welch, Brandon Mikel, and Slater Metz. I've heard back from Brandon, he says that based on what I've told him the potential venue is likely viable, and my lack of experience is a concern but not necessarily an insurmountable problem. I might try to push it through if I hear similar sentiments back from Walker and/or Slater, or I might decide to wait another year.

E: Brandon did mention that time and distance should be fine, at least as of now.
 
One Wheel said:
I sent my email to Walker Welch, Brandon Mikel, and Slater Metz. I've heard back from Brandon, he says that based on what I've told him the potential venue is likely viable, and my lack of experience is a concern but not necessarily an insurmountable problem. I might try to push it through if I hear similar sentiments back from Walker and/or Slater, or I might decide to wait another year.
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OK you should be fine then. Tell us any updates.
 
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