Diy magnetic cube discussion/ accomplishments

post here the different magnetic cubes that you have made, as well as your favorite magnetic cube.
Also, this is a good place to discuss the process/ difficulty of magnetizing certain cubes, or ask questions.

My first question: What 3x3 cube is the easiest to magnatize?
Hey BossCuber! Excellent thread you started!!!
I think the best cube to start on is the MF3RS. It's inexpensive, you can use either a stronger magnet or weaker magnet, and end up with a very, very nice cube! You can also learn the various gluing techniques with this cube.

As for which cubes I have magnetized, I guess I've magnetized every popular cube that is on the market. And within those maybe a dozen GTS, fourteen Valks (seven prototypes alone on that cube until I found the best magnets for it), five GTS2s, three Thunderclap V1, two Aolong V2s, two Yuexiaos, two Gan Airs, a bunch more 3x3s, about eight 2x2s to a total of around 50, I believe.

For me, the Air is my most difficult 3x3. The Valk to me is really easy probably because I've done so many- I could do that cube blindfolded! Lol The GTS2 is also easy.

I don't go for speed when I build a cube. Unfortunately this mentality has slipped in magmodding, possibly from the speed solving state of mind. For me, it's a meditative process. I'm only building for myself. I'm also a stickler for paying attention to detail and precision. This comes from my profession as musical instrument repair technician and custom trumpet builder. I also actually GLUE my magnets to the cubie piece plastic. Sure, you can crank a cube out quickly if all you do is position the magnets then come back and place a drop of superglue on them. Unfortunately this doesn't create a permanent bond. Hardly.

One of the very first tests I ever did with my magcubes was a pry test of the magnets to see which adhesive, and which gluing technique, worked the best. I've probably tried eight different adhesives. And I'm still experimenting! Just tried a new glue this past weekend. Anyway, it might seem a wasteful thing to purposely pry out magnets just for the express reason of finding out how durable your glue is, but in the long run, it's worth it.

But back to the speed issue. I can crank out a GTS2 in an hour, but unless you're selling these things, why? Until you're actually experienced doing it, all you'll get with rushing it is a lot of mistakes. And give the glue plenty of time to dry. I actually like to let my glued parts sit for several hours under the slight breeze of a ceiling fan before reassembling. When you circulate air, you won't get the nasty white fogging/etching of the plastic that superglues tend to do as their fumes concentrate.

And finally, since you're just getting into magmodding, don't cheap out on your magnets!!!!!!! If you're about to build potentially the best cube you'll have ever had, why try to save a few bucks on the magnets? Your cube is worth putting decent magnets in it, magnets that are plated properly and up to spec.

I spent two hours this evening cataloging and testing my supply of magnets. I have over ten styles of magnets to choose from with a total count being roughly 4800 magnets. Price is rarely a concern- you get what you pay for. I bought from eBay twice, and learned. Never again. Magnets aren't that expensive. Shipping is, so buy larger quantities to offset the shipping costs.

My advice- buy only from a reputable magnet company whom you can easily communicate with. There are so many fake, misrepresented magnets being sold, mostly the "N50" 4x2. I'm convinced, after hearing daily from people telling me they've successfully used them in cubes like the Air and Valk, then say that the magnetic feel is "subtle", I know for sure that what they've received is N35 magnets being passed off as something stronger. So buy from real magnet companies and buy domestic. We have three really good companies that I know of in the US for 4mm x 2mm neodymium magnets. Apex Magnets is the source for N48s, Thackery for the N52s, and Gaussboys for N35, N38, N42, and N50. Gaussboys is great because after talking with the owner, he's about to start carrying N35s (he'll be the only domestic seller in the US) and N50s. Also, his magnets are of a superior quality.

Anyway that's my take. Sorry for being so long winded. That doesn't happen often! Lol
 
Hey, 2 questions.

Planning on making a DIY Valk M. Should I use 35s or 50s?

Also, can someone send me an image of good placement of polarity of the magnets for a valk?
N35 4x2. Gives nice subtle feel. Real N50s are too strong unless you end up with weak ones.

If you like a stronger magnetic feel, N38s and N42s are really nice in this cube.

I usually place the edge piece magnet on the left side of the edge half, at the bottom and end of the retaining post. This gives you a perfectly repeatable position.
 

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My CB G4 has died, and I traded off my mini Aosu. I'm getting a yuxin blue to replace them. I have plans for all of the magnets that I currently have (except 5x2 n52), so I can start fresh magnetizing the yuxin. What magnets should I get?
 
I have put 4x1,5mm N45 magnets for outer slice and inner 4x1 mm N45,. Mind that it is very hard to put 4mm on inner slice, but it can be done. The same with wuque. The balance is perfect. I made an aditional mod with adding thunderclap springs to wuque( with two washers as the springs are very short for 62mm). In yuxin i made fangshi 3x3 spring swap even before magnets. Both cubes turn out amazing. I could use wuque for 3x3 main if it wasn't so huge. It reminds me completely on Valk now.
 
I want to magnetise an aolong, but I haven't yet because I have not got magnets but I should
I think 4x2 N35s are good in an Aolong. If you want to buy cheap but good ones with free shipping get it from here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...-x-2mm-Strong-Powerful-Round/32760522073.html
I got mine from there and have magnetised my XingHen, Yan 3 and WuQue with them.
  • XingHen has a nice strong feeling with a bump, I find it nice or 2x2.
  • Yan 3 has more subtle feeling but it works well, I somehow now would prefer lighter magnets in a 3x3 than I would have rather. It maybe undershoot a tiny bit when you speedsolve and it will not lock up but will have a really noticeable reverse corner cut which isn't nice to solve with. You don't actually need strong magnets in a cube, you just need ones that hold it well.
  • My WuQue helps my times the most, dropping by 20 seconds though I'm not a big cube speedsolver and have not had time to go to any competitions cause of sports. It has a nice strong feeling in the inner layers which is probably post important, and the outer layers have a very subtle feeling (it might be because of the bumpiness) but it helps prevent lock ups.
Hey BossCuber! Excellent thread you started!!!
I think the best cube to start on is the MF3RS. It's inexpensive, you can use either a stronger magnet or weaker magnet, and end up with a very, very nice cube! You can also learn the various gluing techniques with this cube.

As for which cubes I have magnetized, I guess I've magnetized every popular cube that is on the market. And within those maybe a dozen GTS, fourteen Valks (seven prototypes alone on that cube until I found the best magnets for it), five GTS2s, three Thunderclap V1, two Aolong V2s, two Yuexiaos, two Gan Airs, a bunch more 3x3s, about eight 2x2s to a total of around 50, I believe.

For me, the Air is my most difficult 3x3. The Valk to me is really easy probably because I've done so many- I could do that cube blindfolded! Lol The GTS2 is also easy.

I don't go for speed when I build a cube. Unfortunately this mentality has slipped in magmodding, possibly from the speed solving state of mind. For me, it's a meditative process. I'm only building for myself. I'm also a stickler for paying attention to detail and precision. This comes from my profession as musical instrument repair technician and custom trumpet builder. I also actually GLUE my magnets to the cubie piece plastic. Sure, you can crank a cube out quickly if all you do is position the magnets then come back and place a drop of superglue on them. Unfortunately this doesn't create a permanent bond. Hardly.

One of the very first tests I ever did with my magcubes was a pry test of the magnets to see which adhesive, and which gluing technique, worked the best. I've probably tried eight different adhesives. And I'm still experimenting! Just tried a new glue this past weekend. Anyway, it might seem a wasteful thing to purposely pry out magnets just for the express reason of finding out how durable your glue is, but in the long run, it's worth it.

But back to the speed issue. I can crank out a GTS2 in an hour, but unless you're selling these things, why? Until you're actually experienced doing it, all you'll get with rushing it is a lot of mistakes. And give the glue plenty of time to dry. I actually like to let my glued parts sit for several hours under the slight breeze of a ceiling fan before reassembling. When you circulate air, you won't get the nasty white fogging/etching of the plastic that superglues tend to do as their fumes concentrate.

And finally, since you're just getting into magmodding, don't cheap out on your magnets!!!!!!! If you're about to build potentially the best cube you'll have ever had, why try to save a few bucks on the magnets? Your cube is worth putting decent magnets in it, magnets that are plated properly and up to spec.

I spent two hours this evening cataloging and testing my supply of magnets. I have over ten styles of magnets to choose from with a total count being roughly 4800 magnets. Price is rarely a concern- you get what you pay for. I bought from eBay twice, and learned. Never again. Magnets aren't that expensive. Shipping is, so buy larger quantities to offset the shipping costs.

My advice- buy only from a reputable magnet company whom you can easily communicate with. There are so many fake, misrepresented magnets being sold, mostly the "N50" 4x2. I'm convinced, after hearing daily from people telling me they've successfully used them in cubes like the Air and Valk, then say that the magnetic feel is "subtle", I know for sure that what they've received is N35 magnets being passed off as something stronger. So buy from real magnet companies and buy domestic. We have three really good companies that I know of in the US for 4mm x 2mm neodymium magnets. Apex Magnets is the source for N48s, Thackery for the N52s, and Gaussboys for N35, N38, N42, and N50. Gaussboys is great because after talking with the owner, he's about to start carrying N35s (he'll be the only domestic seller in the US) and N50s. Also, his magnets are of a superior quality.

Anyway that's my take. Sorry for being so long winded. That doesn't happen often! Lol
I can crank out a 3x3 easily in an hour or two (split piece design). I magnetised my first magcube which was the XingHen and it took way too long because the magnets kept trying to connect with the others on each piece. My Yan 3 took 2 hours and my WuQue took 5 hours including the drying time.
 
I have put 4x1,5mm N45 magnets for outer slice and inner 4x1 mm N45,. Mind that it is very hard to put 4mm on inner slice, but it can be done. The same with wuque. The balance is perfect. I made an aditional mod with adding thunderclap springs to wuque( with two washers as the springs are very short for 62mm). In yuxin i made fangshi 3x3 spring swap even before magnets. Both cubes turn out amazing. I could use wuque for 3x3 main if it wasn't so huge. It reminds me completely on Valk now.

If the 4x1 are hard to fit, would I be better off to use 3x1.5 for the inner slice?
 
hi,
I see some of you magnetised 5x5. I wonder how did you place 96 magnets? I know how to do it in 4x4. But how do you place them in the middle edges? I thougt I need 4 magnets for each inner edge, but I guess it can be done with 2. I guess if i put in all 3 edges ( of the tredge)one top left and one bottom right, I avoid parity problem.
In 4x4 we have double attraction on inner layers, in 5x5 it wouldn't be the case. Should i still use weaker magnets for inner slices( that means 2 magnets in inner edge and one of the magnets in outer edge, just the one facing inner edge) like in 4x4? Or you just go with same magnet strenght all over the cube?
 
First impressions on my Aoshi M: meh. Maybe it just needs to be broken in again, and I'm sure I'll need to mess (more) with tensions, but the most notable difference seems to be the weight. I used 4x2mm n35 for most of it, with 3x1 n50 (advertised: I suspect there may have been a couple different grades in the lot) doubled to make 3x2 along the inner slice. Double magnets along the inner slice, obviously. Overall a lot of work, and it's not immediately apparent that it was worth it, but I do have a fully magnetized 6x6.

Edit: update: I'm getting happier with the Aoshi, several PB'S including a 5:28.73 (previous was 5:58.18)

Weichuang M is also not immediately obvious improvement over stock, but certainly easier to do than the 6x6.
 
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hi,
I see some of you magnetised 5x5. I wonder how did you place 96 magnets? I know how to do it in 4x4. But how do you place them in the middle edges? I thougt I need 4 magnets for each inner edge, but I guess it can be done with 2. I guess if i put in all 3 edges ( of the tredge)one top left and one bottom right, I avoid parity problem.
In 4x4 we have double attraction on inner layers, in 5x5 it wouldn't be the case. Should i still use weaker magnets for inner slices( that means 2 magnets in inner edge and one of the magnets in outer edge, just the one facing inner edge) like in 4x4? Or you just go with same magnet strenght all over the cube?
Look at speedcubereview's 2x2 - 5x5 series, he explains it well.
My CB G4 has died, and I traded off my mini Aosu. I'm getting a yuxin blue to replace them. I have plans for all of the magnets that I currently have (except 5x2 n52), so I can start fresh magnetizing the yuxin. What magnets should I get?
I reckon 4x2mm N35 should work well. Not too strong or weak, I've never tried it. 5x5 doesn't need strong magnets otherwise your fingers make get tired.
What magnets would you reccomend in a yuxin 5x5? And how would I place them as well as in a 4x4?
4x2mm N35s. Magnets feel weaker in non-moyu plastic other than gans. I've done this test with my friends and we've concluded that.
 
I want to attempt to make a magnetic clock but not sure where to place the magnets. Any ideas?
 
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I magnetised Qiyi Wushuang 5x5 yesterday. I must say it was not hard compared to 4x4's. It takes more time to take middle edges apart, then the whole glueing process. Added magnets give you real freedom to loosen the tensions and keep stability. Very nice. I used N35 4x2 all the same 96. I thought they will be too strong, but they are not. I have weaker in wuque 4x4 and the pull there is stronger.
I also magnetsed gts2 with N35 4x2. It has lighter pull then ValkM, so if someone wants more force, use N38. It is nice cube now, much better stability, as stability was the isue compared to Valk. Gts2 has this nice soft feeling. It is very nice, but for me it doesn't beat valkM, also i do prefer qiyi stickerless colours.
 
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