Smiles
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For you guys who don't have the opportunity to try all of them!
Weilong GTS / Gans Air / Valk 3 (Review & Comparison)
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gts ftw
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The only negative about any of these, in my opinion, are the crappy stickers that came on my GTS 
Honestly I love all 3, all 3 are unique and different. At this point if I had to pick just one i would pick the Valk 3 but it's just because it fits me better personally.
Honestly I love all 3, all 3 are unique and different. At this point if I had to pick just one i would pick the Valk 3 but it's just because it fits me better personally.
Dom
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Awesome thread! Thanks for posting this.
If I haven't tried all three, can I still vote? (Well I did. ^_^) I tried the GTS and the Valk.
I vote Valk because it's super stable, reminds me of my Yuexiao's, and it has a STICKERLESS option. The others don't.
I really like the feel.
If I haven't tried all three, can I still vote? (Well I did. ^_^) I tried the GTS and the Valk.
I vote Valk because it's super stable, reminds me of my Yuexiao's, and it has a STICKERLESS option. The others don't.
I really like the feel.
Aysha
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I used to love the Weilong GTS but I switched to the Valk! It's extremely smooth and really suits my turning style. I absolutely love it's smaller size.
The performance is especially good after breaking it in and adding N35 magnets.
The performance is especially good after breaking it in and adding N35 magnets.
Tycubing
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All 3 cubes were my mains at one time. The GTS is a fast cube that has a lot of corner cutting if you set it up correctly. The Valk is an overall great cube: the stability, the speed, and the feeling are all great factor.
The Gans Air, though. Out of the box, it is pretty average and the price point is high. After setting it up and breaking it in, it shot down my times on 3x3 from a 14-15 second average with a Valk to a 13-14 second average.
One vote for GANS
The Gans Air, though. Out of the box, it is pretty average and the price point is high. After setting it up and breaking it in, it shot down my times on 3x3 from a 14-15 second average with a Valk to a 13-14 second average.
One vote for GANS
dskids
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I am glad to say I have all three cubes because I love solving on all of them. But if I could only have one cube it would definitely be the Valk. It's just the perfect balance of fast and stable, with almost zero catches or lockups. It's also the best out of the box by a long distance, and responds very well to setup.
Dash Lambda
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Gans Air. No contest, for me at least.
It's faster, more fluid, more stable, and lighter than the GTS or Valk ever can be. Granted, my taste is a little different from normal, but still...
It's faster, more fluid, more stable, and lighter than the GTS or Valk ever can be. Granted, my taste is a little different from normal, but still...
Smiles
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It's honestly hard to not like all 3.
I think I'm liking the gans air more. For you guys who chose the gans air, what springs did you choose and how did you set it up?
I think I'm liking the gans air more. For you guys who chose the gans air, what springs did you choose and how did you set it up?
Tycubing
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clear. I set it up by putting traxxas 50k and silk in it and broke it in with about 1,500 solves. It is magical.
Dash Lambda
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I used the yellow springs for a while, then I got the G set and switched to blue.
As for the rest of the setup, well...
I made a thread on that.
Smiles
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I feel like green is slightly too loose and anything past green is way too loose. What tensions are you using? Like how far does the screw poke out of the plastic? (or inward)
Dash Lambda
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Like I said in that thread, the GES nuts are flush with the spokes.
Smiles
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Oh I read the post but didn't catch that; didn't realize what flush with spokes meant. My bad
I found that the tension is pretty good like that, but (using yellow springs) it seems like if I loosen it slightly from there, the friction drastically reduces but if I go slightly looser than that, then the layers are so loose that they move unintentionally and mess up my algs.
In other words, it seems like I have a very small range of tension that, if I'm off, causes the cube to be way too fast or way too slow. I just thought that was interesting because the difference in feel is so drastic that I basically am forced to use this specific tension setting.
Dash Lambda
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Well, given the short travel of the GES nuts, adjustments to the tensions are a bit magnified.
When I was using yellow nuts, I actually had them sitting about a half-turn higher than they are right now, tighter than that and the cube started to feel sluggish. I prefer as little resistance as possible, so what I consider fast and slow are a little skewed.
jaredye
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If you make Air M, I feel purple or blue GES is better because magnets can stabilize the cube, and a softer spring can improve reverse cutting.
I also made GTS M and Valk M myself. I expected GTS M to greatly improve the stability, but it turned out not as great as I thought it would be. Valk is already very stable so I wasn't expecting it to improve much. However, I would say Valk M is the best cube I've owned so far. It's hard to describe why magnets work wonder on Valk. I guess it's mainly because magnets help me align layers when turning so I have less need to rely on (particular) reverse cutting.
I also made GTS M and Valk M myself. I expected GTS M to greatly improve the stability, but it turned out not as great as I thought it would be. Valk is already very stable so I wasn't expecting it to improve much. However, I would say Valk M is the best cube I've owned so far. It's hard to describe why magnets work wonder on Valk. I guess it's mainly because magnets help me align layers when turning so I have less need to rely on (particular) reverse cutting.
Dash Lambda
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Well, the new 356 Air UM has the purple springs as default, so I guess Gans agrees.
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Can I ask u which magnet grade did u use on the valk 3? Cause i wanna make one myself.
WastedMeerkat
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I've been out of the speedsolving game for a while, how do these compare to a properly worn-in and lubed ZhanChi? Don't have a very good frame of reference anymore.
Dash Lambda
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Oh my...
Well, there are a few major differences:
-These do not pop. They just don't, you'd have to break the cube for it to come apart like that.
-These do not corner-twist. You can intentionally twist the corner if you force it, but it will never happen normally.
-These can full cut. Where the ZhanChi (and most other earlier speedcubes) have a region between forward and reverse cutting where it sort of locks up, these cubes usually don't (but it does depend on how you set it up). They can still lock up, but not nearly as easily.
-These are all lighter. This is a matter of taste, of course, but they are between ten and twenty grams lighter.
-These are all smaller. This is even more a matter of taste, the smallest is the Valk at 55.5mm.
Since the ZhanChi's generation, most of the changes have just been refinements. Getting a newer cube won't drop your times dramatically, but you'll probably like the feeling more, you'll lock up less, and you won't have to be careful at all about explosions or corner-twisting.
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