why is there no best method?

[TDM]

Here He is Sub-10 with the Big-4.

A sub-10 average of 12 doesn't make you sub-10. Even if someone got sub-10 Ao100s I still wouldn't call them sub-10.

 

[guysensei1]

ELLCP

This is 1LLL for the OLL cases where the corners are oriented right?

 

[JTWong71]

A sub-10 average of 12 doesn't make you sub-10. Even if someone got sub-10 Ao100s I still wouldn't call them sub-10.

I know, but I don't know what he averages at the higher solve counts, so there isn't much information on what he is Sub-10 with.

 

[shadowslice e]

Here He is Sub-10 with the Big-4.

Those aren't global
E: ninja'd

 

[JTWong71]

Those aren't global
E: ninja'd

Well, I don't think anyone is officially using 2 methods where that person is Sub-10 them.

 

[Rubix Cubix]

so if you only know lbl is that the best for you

tau yu is sub 10 with 4 methods

I didn't know about him, I guess he just enjoys cubing a lot and has enough time to learn all these different methods, either way he is incredibly good. As for the lbl method I think that is a bit different as it's only intended to be a beginners method and naturally beginners transition to being advanced cubers and normally advanced methods. However if you only know lbl and are happy using it and don't want to get any faster and/or learn more algorithms then I think it could be the best method for some people.

 

[shadowslice e]

Well, I don't think anyone is officially using 2 methods where that person is Sub-10 them.

I'm pretty sure he is globally sub-10 CFOP and Roux

 

[JTWong71]

I'm pretty sure he is globally sub-10 CFOP and Roux

Maybe, I haven't seen anything on it, as it is hard find information on method use/type in competitions.

 

[Tony Fisher]

I'd be interested to know if there are any/many sports that DO have a prescribed "correct" method. Golf springs to mind, everyone seems to agree on how to grip the club I think?

There are many different styles in playing golf. It might all look the same to a non golfer but a golfer will tell you different. Most sports will have a bunch of so called experts advising people to play in a very specific way but unorthodoxed methods often do just as well.

 

[Tao Yu]

Yeah, I'm only sub 10 global with CFOP. My global averages with roux, ZZ and Petrus are about 11. I use CFOP for all my solves at competitions.

My thoughts on the thread topic:

I think that even if a "best" method exists, it's just really hard for everyone to come to an agreement on which one it is. I mean, it's been 13 years since Roux was proposed (according to the wiki), and we still get roux vs CFOP debates every now and then. And even if we were to be able to decide that "Petrus-CT is the best method" it would be near impossible to prove that there isn't some other method we haven't thought of that's even faster.

 

[Aaron Lau]

Well to put it straight the best needs to be perfect and there is no such thing as perfect. ye

 

[Shiv3r]

Short answer: There is: Zeroing.

Longer answer: at the moment, there is a trade off between lookahead efficiency and ergonomics. My personal point of view is that this deadlock will continue perhaps indefinitely until either A) a new concept for methods to exploit is created or B) people stop cubing.

what about LSE? its all <M, U> and its Zero-look. The problem with that trade-off is that roux breaks the mold, since it is very ergonomic(rotationless) and also easy to lookahead.

 

[shadowslice e]

what about LSE? its all <M, U> and its Zero-look. The problem with that trade-off is that roux breaks the mold, since it is very ergonomic(rotationless) and also easy to lookahead.

No cause LSE isn't 0 look and it is not really very efficient as a whole in the current form. Also, this post was about the method as a whole and I'm pretty sure that LSE is not a whole method.

 

[Shiv3r]

No cause LSE isn't 0 look and it is not really very efficient as a whole in the current form. Also, this post was about the method as a whole and I'm pretty sure that LSE is not a whole method.

what I meant to say is that the trade-off between ergonomics and lookahead is not as applicable to roux.

 

[shadowslice e]

what I meant to say is that the trade-off between ergonomics and lookahead is not as applicable to roux.

I said it was a trade off between lookahead, ergonomics and efficiency; not just ergonomics and lookahead, in fact, i would say that lookahead and ergonomics can often help each other.